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Old 09-02-20, 18:34
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Hi can any one tell me what type of radio set would of been in my 1942 Loyd carrier towing, there is a metal case/box with a shelf and clamps in side with holes in the back which i presume were the cables went there is also a steel plate that slide's down in front of it

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Old 09-02-20, 19:33
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Hi Richard
Any chance of a photo of the mount?
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Old 09-02-20, 20:08
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yep ill get one on here during the week as not with it at moment
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Old 09-02-20, 20:51
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Would Loyd TT have a radio?
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Old 09-02-20, 21:58
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Hi Adrian, There is a box for one and a aerial mount and in the box there is a shelve with clamps which tighten up with wing nuts
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Old 10-02-20, 01:01
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Might be a postwar addition, though if being used as an artillery (4.2" mortar or anti-tank gun) tractor a wireless set would have been useful. If fitted it's likely to have been a WS38 or WS18 I would think.

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Old 10-02-20, 08:44
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From what I've managed to find over the years all Loyd TTs came from the factory with a location for a WS22 set up on the front left track guard, you will find the stowage rack for a pair of batteries and odd shaped holes in the left hand side for the battery cables. There is also the base plate for the Ariel mount, hanging off the top of the upper hull. The wartime stowage diagrams have a note that says for TT's setup for radio the lower ammunition rack longitudinal bars must be cut away for the radio to fit.

Doing some research with Pete Mason and his 4.2" mortar collection last year the evidence strongly suggests that the WS22 set and indeed any WS fitment (Loyds only ever had WS22) was only on 4.2" Mortar carrier Loyds and even then, only in the nominated 'command' vehicle.

On a Loyd TT pulling a 6 Pdr there would not in all probability have been a radio installed, the battery rack being nominated as simply a ration storage box on the 6 Pdr TT stowage diagrams.

PS. When I say left, this is from the drivers perspective, looking forward.
PPS. Saying that a location was 'setup' for a WS22 is probably giving the Loyd more credit than it deserves, 'nominated' would probably be more appropriate as there are no fittings for a mount so I guess the unit would just bolt in the WS22 vehicle mount in the nominated command vehicle. Does anyone have a photo of WS22 vehicle mount they could post?
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Old 10-02-20, 14:32
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Thanks Alistair it is laid out as you say. but wouldn't the crew need to know or communicate to the commander were to position and fire the 6pdr
i will try to upload a photo this week and put some dimensions on here
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Old 10-02-20, 16:46
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I've never seen a wartime photo of a loyd TT with 6 pdr with a radio aerial. The TT 6 pdr wartime storage diagrams which detail both the loyd towing the gun and the one just with extra ammo have no radio fitted.

Radios are nice, fit one.
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Old 16-02-20, 17:10
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Hi as Alistair
has said the box is as suggested i have looked in the workshop manuals and it says the carrier with the 4.6 mortar had the radio and on the TT carrier they used it for rations. but as it has all the fixings for the radio it would look nice.
But one question comes to mind how did they communicate to the gun team and to HQ or how did the infantry contact them perhaps it was just one command carrier between two or three teams ?
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Old 16-02-20, 17:15
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Anti tank guns don't need to be given fire plans and orders in the same way as field artillery. Likely lines of advance of the enemy would be decided upon and guns placed accordingly. The detachment commander would then decide what and when to engage.
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