Ford CMP door markings

[derk derin]

Hi All,
I did some sanding of my Ford door last night and came up with;
A-19-C.A.S.C.T.C.
L
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64-713
Does anybody recognise the markings and where the truck might have been used.By the shape it is in,not in the bush driving over trees! The truck came with a post war army flat deck,with Canadian acceptance stamp and a 1964 date on the data plate.Would the date on the door reflect when the truck went through it's change into a flat deck with removable sides?
I would take some pictures but don't yet know how to post them without my sister's help and she is in the hospital right now having a baby so when that task is over I will get her to post some pictures for me in a couple of days!
Derk.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by derk derin

Hi All,
I did some sanding of my Ford door last night and came up with;
A-19-C.A.S.C.T.C.

... Does anybody recognise the markings and where the truck might have been used ...

Derk;

A 19 Canadian Army Service Corps Training Centre, Camp Borden, Ontario (which is now Canadian Forces Base Borden). A19 C.A.S.C.T.C. was authorized 15 February 1942 and was reorganized & redesignated The Royal Canadian Army Service Corps School effective 1 October 1946.

Cheers

[Jason Ginn]

The F60 near Ottawa in this thread was also issued to the A19 CASCTC in Borden. It is interesting that the registration numbers "64-613" are so close to your truck!

One other A19 CASCTC truck is listed in the INFOEX. It is a F15a GS-2 with serial number 118290. The owner was listed as Doug Weatherston.

[derk derin]

It just occured to me that we are talking about a CMP being in service still in 1964.Would they have been using CMP's that late as the M135 Deuce would have surely replaced any CMP's in service by then?

I know Doug and will have to ask him about his truck.

Thanks for all your help.Will post pictures soon!
Derk.

[Grant Bowker]

There were a very few CMPs in use by the National Research Council and other government departments around Ottawa up to 1970ish (after the change in departmental naming to xxx Canada instead of Department of xxx). The last ones in mmilitary service wer elikely to have been those with specialist bodies such as workshops. I can't remember what Andre Gibeault told me the release date of his RCAF workshop truck was (from North Bay) but remember thinking it was late.

[rob love]

The 64 in the door number has no relation to the year. That style of numbering replaced the earlier style of (ie 41-1-1083. In the case of that style of number, the 41 reflects the year the number was assigned to the truck (usually also the year of manufacture, but not always.)

From what I have seen in war diaries, the earlier door numbers seem to have been assigned in batches in relation to the units that held the vehicles, regardless of the vehicle type. A station wagon could have the next sequential number to a run of F15s, and an artillery tractor could be the next sequentially.

The latest CMP I have heard of was the KL welding lorry with the Camp Borden CE section. If I recall correctly it was in service until 1974. Even later, however, was a CMP 2 wheel compressor trailer hiding in the compound in Flin Flon Manitoba. We would still do annual inspections on it until it was released from service in 1987. I am now the present owner of that one.