Morris-Commercial project

Mike Kelly · #1 15-11-10, 00:04

new project .. this came dowm from QLD 6 years ago .... a very late production aero screen CS8 ..... must be near the last of them made ,18080. The front crash bar damage was done after I did the deal to get it down here ...

MIKE

aj.lec · #2 15-11-10, 03:50

Great looking vehicles

Best of luck with the restoration
When you get the other one down from Queensland you would almost have to have the largest Morris collection in Australia wouldnt you ?

Alex van de Wetering · #3 15-11-10, 13:05

Very nice find, Mike!

Interesting to see the crash bar support made from steel strips, I though this was a C4-feature, but I recon it was also seen on "late" CS8's??

Alex

Mike Kelly · #4 16-11-10, 00:19

Thanks

I pulled the gearbox off yesterday .. the original factory motor is still in situ .

Pics ... the muffler is somewhat stuffed !

Will take me 5 to 8 years I estimate to restore this truck. But I have salvaged many CS8 wrecks for parts/spares over the years , so have enough bits .

Under the muffler bracket , a tid bit of the original paint .. a nice bronze green - AKA BSC 22 Mid bronze green .. its a rich grass green colour .

Mike Kelly · #5 16-11-10, 00:20

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Mike Kelly · #6 16-11-10, 00:22

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Mike Kelly · #7 16-11-10, 00:28

The engine is stuck... I have a new set of pistons and new valves ...
These motors have poured big end bearings with shim adjustment , similar to chev 216 . Mains are conventional type shells .
The truck is over engineered in some respects eg.. rear axle is more like a 4 ton truck setup, steering components also very strong, probably as RF tyres were standard fitting .

Richard Farrant · #8 16-11-10, 00:51

Hi Mike,

A look through the Chilwell Census list, for your Contract number comes up with this;

Z4434248 to 4434607 Cont. No. V4152 Cat. Ref. 209
Truck, 15 cwt, 4x2, Chemical, type CS8 Mk.III, June 1941

( the date may have been gleaned from a spare parts list as the list is a repro with added information. )

regards, Richard

Mike Kelly · #9 16-11-10, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Hi Mike,

A look through the Chilwell Census list, for your Contract number comes up with this;

Z4434248 to 4434607 Cont. No. V4152 Cat. Ref. 209
Truck, 15 cwt, 4x2, Chemical, type CS8 Mk.III, June 1941

( the date may have been gleaned from a spare parts list as the list is a repro with added information. )

regards, Richard

Thanks Richard

Interesting ... that contract includes some GS and house type wireless vehicles also ... God only knows what this one was . Sadly, I don't have the Z number as the bonnet is missing ... it doesn't appear to have had the towing setup on it . The only clue as to its previous use is: On the grill , is hand painted "Q 5 " in large size script .

Mike Kelly · #10 16-11-10, 01:04

The bonnet from the 1939 CS8 wreck ...this bonnet is from a later truck I think... number is too late for 39

Mike Kelly · #11 18-11-10, 00:31

Spent a few hours tweaking the spanners and the motor is ready to come out

Good news: No rust disasters in the cylinders , about 5 thou ridge evident .

These motors have some oddities:

All threads and bolts are metric . Morris bought the French Hotchkiss factory and inherited the Metric tooling .

Valve lifters are located in three seperate blocks that unbolt from main engine block

Mike Kelly · #12 18-11-10, 00:33

bore is standard 82mm ... PHEW

Slight disaster .. tried to remove one of the water jacket side cover bolts.. one broke like it was made from putty .

Carby is a replacement .. A Carter BB-1 .. a generic aftermarket carby used on many cars

Richard Farrant · #13 18-11-10, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

Thanks Richard

Interesting ... that contract includes some GS and house type wireless vehicles also ... God only knows what this one was . Sadly, I don't have the Z number as the bonnet is missing ... it doesn't appear to have had the towing setup on it . The only clue as to its previous use is: On the grill , is hand painted "Q 5 " in large size script .

Hi Mike,

Yes, that contract was for several different body types, but the Cat. Ref. No. on the Contract plate narrows it down from what I found in the Chilwell list, 209 is the Truck, Chemical. Now this type of vehicle has come up before, seem to think it might have been something to do with washing down in the event of chemical weapons being used, could be a bit wrong there, but sure someone will know.