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Old 01-10-15, 19:49
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Default Buy, Sell or Trade access via log-in only?

I have just noticed that the Buy, Sell or Trade section seems to only be available when you log-in with user name and password. Just wondering if this was done to keep non-MLU types out of the listings, or to encourage registration with user names? I had some of the local Ottawa Historic Military Vehicle owners, who were denied access to MLU in the past, ask why they could no longer see the Buy, Sell or Trade postings.

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Old 01-10-15, 21:43
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Stuart, It sounds like it couldn't be set up any better then.
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Old 02-10-15, 10:55
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Stuart, It sounds like it couldn't be set up any better then.
Lynn,

Would you prefer that (sections of) the forum would only be available to registered users?

I'm asking because I'm always interested to hear what the member's thoughts are about these kind of subjects.

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Old 02-10-15, 11:53
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Hi Hanno, my line of thought is that at least here, we have some idea of who we are dealing with. There are other mediums by which non forum members can sell things. MLU is a relatively small group with common interests and rightly or wrongly this feels like a safer place to do deals than for example E-bay.
I just assumed that this is the way it is (That only forum members can buy and sell via MLU)

I note that a kiwi has recently become a member with no name, showing no location, (other than NZ) and no other details.
I thought that wasn't supposed to happen?
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Old 02-10-15, 14:59
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As there are no credit card information or enough personal data to steal an identity contained in the MLU data bank, I am not worried about the theft of data from MLU. I do worry more about scammers getting on the forum and flogging items they don't have. So to that end, the fact that we generally know each other here has worked out well.

With the influx of new flaces recently, I have used some caution, but up to now it has worked out well. But when it comes to the regulars on the forum, I have to say I have had extreme satisfaction over the years. I personally have no issue with the exchange section being log-in protected. It seems that if I or others have decent CMP related material to sell, it does not last long within the fraternity here as long as it is realistically priced.

By the way, the new influx of fresh faces to the forum has been kind of refreshing. Hopefully they stick around and we don't just get the "what's this worth" one time visitors all the time.

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Old 02-10-15, 15:37
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Hi All

I have no problem with For Sale being user/member only. Would just add statement that it is limited.

As to the incomplete information, such as no location, incomplete names etc, afraid that change is just a sign of the times. I have always enjoyed that MLU was only real people to real people, but that time is probably drawing to a close. I have always felt the fact MLU used real names was why the responses are better thought thru than responses to similar questions on other forums.

In my own case I far more likely to take the time to respond to people I know by name, vehicle, and location.

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Old 05-10-15, 12:39
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Currently in Canada, most academic institutions are warning students in university and college to not use their real name in groups, forums, Twitter and face book. The first thing that many employers do when reviewing applications is search the Internet. More than one student, politician, and even in personal relationships, have been turned down because of a stupid post on the Internet in the past. In Canada, with the current election, several candidates have resigned due to stupid posts in the past.

Your thoughts?
My thought is that schools should learn their students not to say or do stupid things on the internet - or anywhere else. That is what we learn to do in real life as well, isn't it? We still have some homework to do as long as members of royal families do not know it is inappropriate to dress up in certain military uniforms

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Old 02-10-15, 10:05
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I have just noticed that the Buy, Sell or Trade section seems to only be available when you log-in with user name and password. Just wondering if this was done to keep non-MLU types out of the listings, or to encourage registration with user names? I had some of the local Ottawa Historic Military Vehicle owners, who were denied access to MLU in the past, ask why they could no longer see the Buy, Sell or Trade postings.
Stuart,

I have been adjusting some of the Forum settings, will check.

Re. "denied access": no genuinely interested HMV owner has ever been denied access to MLU. Yes, we have had big problems with registration, but self-registration has now been reinstated - see MLU Forum open for registration. Please forward the link to your friendly local HMV owners and invite them to sign up (with their real name!). We would be happy to welcome them.

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Old 05-10-15, 12:42
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I have been adjusting some of the Forum settings, will check.
Settings for all sub-forums are now the same, so all sub-forums can be viewed by visitors.

Question remains if we want to Unregistered / Not Logged In users (=visitors) to view everything:
1) Currently the main differentiation between Registered and Unregistered users is that Unregistered users cannot open the thumbnail pictures to see the full size picture. That is often a reason why people want to join.
2) Other forums do not even show the thumbnails to Unregistered users.
3) Third option is to show nothing to Unregistered users.

Personally, I would prefer option 2) for all sub-forums. Option 3) has the downside that visitors cannot see anything, thus they cannot assess if there is anything of interest to join.

I would like to line up our opinions about this first before we move to other subjects, so can I have your input please?

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Old 05-10-15, 15:19
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I agree with "Option 2" setup.
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Old 05-10-15, 15:35
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I would say the option with smaller pics and no access to buy/sell/trade for non-members is best now that the registration is fixed.
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Old 05-10-15, 16:19
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I agree with Eric.

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Old 08-10-15, 22:56
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I agree with Eric and Bob C.


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I would say the option with smaller pics and no access to buy/sell/trade for non-members is best now that the registration is fixed.
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Old 09-10-15, 04:26
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Same goes for me, too!

I don't really mind non members seeing what is written, or the thumbnails. I took a good long look at WHAT was in the content before I joined. I do not want this site to be access all areas with regards to ability to post, regardless of membership or not. We will, I fear, be easy prey for the one hit wonders to post something stupid or fraudulent then disappear back into anonymity. This is the issue with many of the no-membership places on the internet. Those of us who took the time to register and remain, would very quickly get discouraged from staying in touch with each other.

Too many things have been amended in the name of progress, only to discover at later date that it was a really dumb idea. Very difficult to reverse something, more often than not! Is it really such a big ask for someone to take the few minutes to join, before they expect to be able to contribute themselves? Not a problem now that membership is now easy to do, is it? Do we expect to receive access to any associations, clubs, professional bodies, etc, without joining that group officially? Try getting the discounts from a store without joining their 'loyalty' system. Try getting a road breakdown service provider to come fix your car for free without becoming a member.

Leave things be, I say. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion, it ain't broke!
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Old 09-10-15, 09:17
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I agree with Eric and Bob C.

Cheers,
Gets my vote too.

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Old 05-10-15, 19:21
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Stuart

Great points. But in the end, the band width isn't free, and opening up everything to everyone will be costly. As well, there are those fraudsters who love trolling and harvesting the interent, and count on the distance and different jurisdictions to keep them safe from retribution. It is kind of nice that we have a forum with no diet pill or viagra scammers popping up (although with the advanced age of most of us, the latter might be welcome eventually, and I know I could use the diet pills).

I believe option 2 is best, as a happy medium to both sides. Current google searches bring up the photos from the forum, which will draw those with interest to the site. Since sign-up is now working again, those that want in can get in with reasonable effort.
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Old 05-10-15, 21:11
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Option 1 works for me.
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Old 06-10-15, 06:14
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Rob has about summed up my views.
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