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Old 30-11-14, 00:26
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Default Driver handbook scans and photocopies

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I'd be happy to swap notes. I've been doing similar in hopes of finding any info relevant to the F22 or India pattern FAT/FGT. I'm after an FGT drivers handbook If you happen to stumble upon one.

I have
- first to fifth editions of the instructions on driving, maintenance and repair (aka Special Pattern Vehicles).
- Drivers handbooks for F60L, F60L with cold weather supplement, and F15A with tropical supplement
- Second ed. of instructions on maintenance and repair of Ford trucks supplied to defence departments of the British Commonwealth (the non CMP models)
- The Australian manual that Dave has shown here

Not for sale but I'd be happy to scan parts and email them if you're looking for something.

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Old 30-11-14, 00:36
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I'd be interested to see the cold weather and tropical supplements please Lauren.

Somewhere I have a copy of the FGT handbook which was kindly photocopied at 2x size for me by the owner who also had the complete range from which the Australian handbook was compiled. How do I know that? The pages used for the Australian one are missing from each of his Canadian ones!
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Old 30-11-14, 00:41
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I'd be interested to see the cold weather and tropical supplements please Lauren.

Somewhere I have a copy of the FGT handbook which was kindly photocopied at 2x size for me by the owner who also had the complete range from which the Australian handbook was compiled. How do I know that? The pages used for the Australian one are missing from each of his Canadian ones!
That would be absolutely awesome, as that would make it a late war copy as well (spot on)!
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Old 30-11-14, 01:16
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So as not to de-rail the thread I'll just post the cover and an example of how things were cut out, so it is unfortunately incomplete. The cover is not the real colour.

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Old 30-11-14, 01:19
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I've start this thread to assist those who are interested in seeing some of the pages of the rarer driver handbooks - both Ford and Chevrolet.

Please feel free to jump in and add your own images!

Here are a few from the Ford FGT-HB1.

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Old 30-11-14, 01:22
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Default And a couple more

Fairleads which I'd imagine appear in some of the other books as well.

The tyre pic is obviously unique to the FGT

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Old 30-11-14, 02:50
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Keith,

Great idea. Would you happen to have any scans of the Operators Manual for the Ford Lynx Scout Car? It is titled SC-OM1.

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Old 30-11-14, 04:10
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No, sorry Peter, but I'm sure someone will!

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Great idea. Would you happen to have any scans of the Operators Manual for the Ford Lynx Scout Car? It is titled SC-OM1.

Thanks, Peter
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Old 30-11-14, 21:51
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I've been doing similar in hopes of finding any info relevant to the F22 or India pattern FAT/FGT.
Not a driver's handbook, but I always wondered if this "Army Service Training Course 1944" instruction/workshop manual for the Indian Army contains any references to the Indian Pattern FAT. I was unfortunate to miss out on the Ebay auction - still wondering who "reecetrooper" is as he could supply us with copies.

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Rare original Ford Motor Company of India "Army Service Training Course 1944" being an instruction/workshop manual for the Indian Army.

Printed covers. Page size 28x23 cm. Several hundred pages of duplicated typescript notes with numerous photographs & diagrams throughout.

Includes Jeep, Air Force Crash Tender, Universal Carrier, Ambulance, V8 Armoured Carrier etc., mainly details of engine tuning and maintenance etc.

Raged edges, somewhat workshop soiled but sound copy.
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Old 01-12-14, 21:20
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I have a couple of copies of the Indian course book, both different so it looks like they were put together for individual courses.

Sadly No mention of the Indian pattern FAT (that I've found anyway), but it does go through a range of other non-CMP vehicles (such as the WOT2).

I live in hope of finding one that does mention it.
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Old 01-12-14, 21:36
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Tell a lie, there may be something here. I just picked it up again and on the list of vehicles there's

C011QF-C291Q Artillery Tractor 4x4 indicating winch fitted, and
C119QHF-C291QH Stripped C011QF chassis 4x4 no winch.

I'll scan the page in with the supplements.
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Old 01-12-14, 22:24
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Tell a lie, there may be something here. I just picked it up again and on the list of vehicles there's

C011QF-C291Q Artillery Tractor 4x4 indicating winch fitted, and
C119QHF-C291QH Stripped C011QF chassis 4x4 no winch.

I'll scan the page in with the supplements.
I'll put a cuppa on

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Old 01-12-14, 23:28
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Default Thanks for the Gun tractor winch scan....

...much needed for my C15a with a transplanted CGT winch and 2 speed T case.

My basic driver's manual for the C15a had no such information.

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Old 23-12-14, 23:54
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Tell a lie, there may be something here. I just picked it up again and on the list of vehicles there's

C011QF-C291Q Artillery Tractor 4x4 indicating winch fitted, and
C119QHF-C291QH Stripped C011QF chassis 4x4 no winch.

I'll scan the page in with the supplements.
Uploaded to Hanno's new C291QH thread - http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d.php?p=203935
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Images from Driver's Handbook Ford 15 Cwt 4x4 F15A:

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Second installment.

If anyone knows of another copy for sale or trade, please let me know as it is the last manual I need for my F15A.

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Some page from FGT April 1944
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Finding the HC1 Driver's Handbook would be like finding the missing link in human evolution.
Maybe one day we will find it and we can learn a little more about the last artillery tractor built during ww2 and that never entered combat.
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Finding the HC1 Driver's Handbook would be like finding the missing link in human evolution.
Maybe one day we will find it and we can learn a little more about the last artillery tractor built during ww2 and that never entered combat.
I'm thinking maybe the C is just a typo when it should still be B as the HB stands for Hand Book.
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Old 03-08-21, 02:59
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Exactly. If it was a new edition with updated info the book would be FGT-HB2.
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Keith, Tony yours comments have logical sense. But until a copy appears, we wll have the doubt..
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Second installment.

If anyone knows of another copy for sale or trade, please let me know as it is the last manual I need for my F15A.

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Hi Hanno, cooming soon i upload a PDF of this manual . Hard to scan any page a then make the PDF archiv.
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Gents,

It seems that I missed contributing to this discussion almost 3 years ago. There were two series of Driver’s Handbooks: Handbook British (HB), and Handbook Canadian (HC). It would appear that the British Handbooks are far more prevalent. Attached are some supporting images from the design record.
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Here are some images of C60-HB1, and C60-HC1 I took a few years ago to contribute to a different discussion.

With C60-HC1 produced close to a year after C60-HB1, it includes up-to-date info on the latest features/design improvements.

The main difference between the two books is the layout. The Handbooks intended for the British have the information laid out to conform to the British “Sixteen Tasks Maintenance Routine”, whereas the Canadian book uses the Canadian Task System (I am not currently near the books to get the proper name).

As the Driver’s Handbooks detail mechanical maintenance tasks, FGT-HC1 may not provide much detail on the Gun Tractor body, and may not have been produced late enough to provide info on the last body type.

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Hi Colin, thanks for the contribution. Now i know th mean of HC and HB!
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