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Harry,
Based on our collective experiences, which includes Rob Love and the RCA Lynx, they seem to suffer from being exposed to the elements over time. Not surprising when you think about it. I was able to source from Mac's Auto Parts both the external cap (Robin's last picture) "Floor Shift Lever Housing Cap 32-32089-1", which works quite well and the internal cap which didn't work well since the top hole was too large to properly secure the spring. Gerry certainly solved that. Perry, Thanks for sharing your experiences. Sounds as if you and Gerry used the same approach to solving the problem. I'm looking forward to seeing his solution. Peter Last edited by Peter Duggan; 10-09-19 at 23:47. |
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Floor Shift Lever Housing Cap 32-32089-1"
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The T98 and T18 boxes do not utilise the reverse lockout lever, but the available new shifter levers can be modified to fit this, or you can run without it. https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/...t18-t19-parts/ |
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Peter, I have been away from the forum for a while and was also unable to make it to Aquino this year. Congratulations on getting plates on it at last, what a great milestone. The action shot you shared from Aquino is brilliant!
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Guys,
Gerry and Robin showed up on Thursday with a well rebuilt shifter tower which was installed in short order. However Gerry was disturbed by some of the sounds originating from the clutch. After removing the battery pack and access plate we were able to expose the top of the clutch assembly. This revealed a grease line to the release bearing that had come adrift and disintegrated along with the remnants of the release bearing hub (retainer). It appears that this was incorrectly assembled by someone who shall remain nameless (myself). Bottom line is that the engine now has to be pulled, which entails a fair bit of work just to expose the engine. This project was to keep me busy in my retirement and is doing so, still enjoying every moment. I am now looking for a replacement "Hub-clutch release bearing", O9B 7561, which appears to used in other applications as well as in the Lynx. Should anyone know where I can source one, please let me know. Peter |
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I would expect a Ford part number to be 09B 7561 rather than O9B 7561 (number zero rather than letter "Oh"). A crude Google on that produces results for both a bearing and a hub for the bearing. The hub appears discontinued at Macs but available at Dennis Carpenter... The bearing appears available at several sources.
Sorry, I forgot to include the link to the Google I did. Interesting to see that doing the search now brings up this discussion as a result... https://www.google.com/search?source...=1568593924523 Last edited by Grant Bowker; 16-09-19 at 03:34. |
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Peter, If it makes you feel any better, I just dropped the 300 pound nose armour off the Fox (after removing 31 1/2" round head slot screws and a few dozen smaller nuts and bolts) to access the clutch master cylinder that needs periodic servicing. I feel your pain!!
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Bruce,
was today your birthday? I know it was Peter's birthday, Happy Birthday. ![]() ![]()
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Peter. If in fact it was or is your B'day....Happy Birthday. All the best!
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The bearing carrier is probably the same as most of the Fords of that era.
In saying that there are bearings that are greasable and those that are sealed for life. They match up to the appropriate bearing carrier. Yours requires the greasable bearing and the bearing carrier that takes the grease hose.
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Guys,
Takes a bit of work on a Lynx to access the clutch assembly. I fortunately cleaned off a few shelves to store the parts, just didn't expect to fill them all. Armour bits took up the floor space. Now to wait for parts and expertise. Tony, Thanks for the heads up about Hagen's. |
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Peter, think of it this way...it keeps you young.
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I don't consider myself old school @ age 37, but I have been trained by and continually surround myself with people like minded and that could be considered that ![]() I've been born and raised with tools in hand on the coat tails of my father, who is a life long heavy truck/ diesel mechanic. Last edited by Gerry_Foster; 27-09-19 at 06:15. Reason: Typo |
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Guys,
Gerry and his sidekick Robin showed up tonight to determine what ailed the clutch function. When the engine was separated from the transmission Gerry was dumbfounded to find the clutch release bearing and retainer installed back to front by some nameless neophyte (myself). Gerry was quite surprised that the clutch functioned at all. Fortunately the damage was limited to the release bearing and retainer. After a new bearing and retainer were installed, the engine remounted, a rear wheel was raised in the air and the clutch function was dry tested and now appears to function as advertised. Now to reassemble the rest of the Lynx and wait on Gerry to live test all the functions before I take a victory lap. Peter |
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You need to look a little closer. The non greaseable carrier(Ford call it a "Hub")09B-7561 has a flat surface that the "sealed for life" bearing sits against. The greaseable carrier(Hub, C09B-7561) has a hole that takes grease through to the bearing retainer, but it also has another hole that feeds grease to the bearing. The face that the bearing sits against is hollow, which allows grease to travel around between the bearing and the carrier, until it finds a hole in the back of the SE51-7580 bearing, which IS greased at the same time as the"hub" is greased on the bearing retainer. I will also add that there is a third and fourth hole. These allow grease to the working faces of the 7515 fork. Installing them the way Peter had it would not have helped.
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And now that Peter has oriented the bearing hub correctly, the grease fitting on the hub now points toward the hole in the bellhousing for the grease cup!
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Tony, try Aetna A2256-31 and National 2065 for a non greasable one
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Guys,
Just like the old Willie Nelson song, the Lynx is now "Back on the road again". Gerry and Robin came by last night to ensure that everything was put together correctly again and much more. The shifter now works like a dream, without trying to engage fourth and reverse simultaneously, while the clutch works as advertised. Took the Lynx out for a nice run today, long enough to realize that I now need to find myself some good goggles. Looking to find something period correct and effective. Peter The Lynx restoration has enabled me to meet some quality people along the way. |
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Dear Peter,
I am delighted to have done nothing more than be Gerry's sidekick and tool passing assistant and poor taker of pictures in this escapade. As you well know, Gerry is the mechanic not me but as his friend I have ridden shotgun on his regular Thursday trips to fettle the Lynx. Gerry gets a distinct pleasure in working on vehicles because people would like them fixed unlike his everyday work. How you were ever able to change gears as well as you did, still is incredible when you could see how that carrier assembly was on the shaft. You were so lucky, we shook our heads the whole way home after that discovery. We feel you must have horseshoes around every corner. Any goggles and a good toque will be the order of the day for much more driving this fall, I can recall the syndrome of "Ferret forehead" gained one Remembrance Day in Ottawa, one that you will repeat if not suitably dressed, we forget so very quickly the protection afforded by a windshield (windscreen). It has been fun to be a along for the ride. Fun is the key word in all of this.
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In my official role as Sidekick I am underemployed during these outings and spend much of the time looking at details and asking Peter what appear to be inane questions which make him think and then come up with the obvious answer, which defied my pea brain.
Sometimes, and it is rare, I ask a question that has no obvious answer. In discussion it is obvious how the escape hatch opens on the inside, as there is a lever handle for that. The outside of the hatch has a keyhole into which a boss from the slam latch body inserts and comes almost flush to the outside, so that it could be used. In discussion with Peter we searched the manual for a key to open the latch, the manual shows the complete equipment schedule and line drawing representations of the items. No key is illustrated. When reading the same manual and the description of the parts and their operation it clearly states that the escape hatch opens from the inside using the lever and "a key from the outside". There is no illustration of the key anywhere. We surmised that the concept of opening the hatch from the outside was a good idea but in reality that notion was dropped and a key was not part of the vehicle kit. Can anyone comment on this? Was this slam latch (my name for it) used on any other vehicle and was there a key on those vehicles? Is there a photo of one? This is the first of two conundrums we have found regarding this Lynx. Picture of the latch for recognition purposes.
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As the Lynx was based on the Daimler Scout Car, bodywise, that lock looks very much like a copy of the Daimler component and the key came with the lock (when I found a nos one) and not listed in the parts book, but is shown in the CES.
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An interesting question to which I have no answer. I have made keys for my Lynx but that does not really help answering the main questions.
Why would you wish to open the hatch from the outside? I suggest that the only circumstance I can think of is when the vehicle has turned over and you wish to help the occupants out of it. So this raises the next question: how would you expect a casual passer-by to have a key? Were they a common item used on many other things/vehicles? If the vehicle is upright and the driver wishes to get in, in the case of the Lynx II, he would simply remove the canvass cover. In the case of the Lynx I, he would be carrying the keys to remove the padlock securing the roof hatch. As anyone who has contemplated it, access via the escape hatch is very much a desperate option. I am also intrigued as to where the driver would keep his key to the escape hatch. Alastair F60S Lynx I MkIII* |
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