CMP Ford F60S

RichCam · #1 28-11-11, 16:32

Guys,
This is my first post to the Softskin Forum. Our group of volunteers have been working on restoring a MkII carrier for our local Canadian Legion and along the way, a family donated their 1941 Ford F60S to our cause. With regards to the F60S, we would like to use it in conjunction with the MkII. It is in very good shape and it has a hoist/dump box on it. I have access to a CMP winch. Would it be blasphemous to add the winch to the frame, replace the dump box with a steel flat bed (with ramps) and add an frame mounted tower pulley, essentially turning the F60S into a simplified tilt and load? The carrier weighs 8000lbs and the F60 is a single axle 4x4. I don't want to create a Monster Truck and I do respect the historical value of the F60 just the way it is now. Our other option is to piece together a FAT with a single axle gator style trailer.
I would appreciate your comments.

Keith Webb · #2 28-11-11, 18:02

Is the body currently on the vehicle original?
I'd be inclined to think the load may be a little heavy for the F60S for this particular use. The single tyres tend to limit the capacity which when combined with the extra weight of a suitable flatbed and winching system you may find your self wobbling a bit... I've had a 5 ton load on a F60L and I only tried it once!
In any event, I'm sure we'd all like to see some pictures of your F60S, and a 1941 cab 12 at that!

RichCam · #3 28-11-11, 18:25

Keith,

Thank you for your response. I am inclined to agree, a 4 ton load would be a little too much and I don't need the "free" publicity of being in an accident. I will continue to source out a trailer for the carrier.
With regards to the F60S - it is all original. It was used at a sawmill as a delivery truck and a chip/sawdust truck up until 7 years ago. It is now inside and we will begin working on it this winter. Attached are a couple of pictures.

Regards,

Keith Webb · #4 28-11-11, 19:26

What a beauty!

I think the (braked) trailer is by far the better option now I've seen it.

Ryan · #5 28-11-11, 22:32

Great looking truck. And another 1941 dated cab 13. This is sure to get people talking. Do you have an exact date on the data plate?

Bob Carriere · #6 29-11-11, 00:19

....can you post a readable picture of the data plate mounted on the dash..?

She is far toooooooo good to modify and use as a tilt and load. One it would be taxing its wieght capacity to the limit..... border line unsafe .... and severely underpowered for today's driving.... and as a 1941 cab 13 rather rare !!! is the engine original..... canyou raise the box to take pcitures of the lifting system..... it may be original......

Done up as a general service vehicle it would be a serious addition to the UC....

A good modern trailer..... at least tandem if not 3 axles.... with brakes will make towing the UC a pleasant experience....rather than hair raising !!!!

Was there ever.... vestige of..... a rectangular hatch on the cab's roof...

Get some pictures before the snow starts.....

Curious.

B0B C

Phil Waterman · #7 29-11-11, 01:18

Hi All

I agree with Bob about about trying to haul 4 or 5 tons on a F60s, I have both a long and a short C60. I've towed 3-4 tons with the C60S and the with the short wheelbase it gets squirrelly towing 3 tons and only 10000 lbs on the 134 wb particularly when you hit the brakes above 30 mph. The 134 inch wheelbase tends to be lively at highway speed anyway. Up engining to give the C60S a 160 hp lets you get up to speed and pull hills good even with a gross vehicle weight of 10000 lbs add 6200 lbs in tow and it is back to feeling like an fully loaded truck with the 216 engine. Read that as slow.

The brakes on a C60S with the big drums are good, same as Ford as they are Ford brakes, booster works good and will lock up all 4 wheels at 30 MPH not a good feeling with the Non-directional tires but it will do it.

I've tried carrying 3 tons of wood in the 1941 C60L 158 inch wheel base with the 216 engine and it is stable but slow and with the smaller brake drums it is under braked unless the brakes are adjusted right on.

Only you can decide how far how often and over what roads you would be towing or carrying a full load. No question at all that F60 and C60 routinely carry loads of 3-4-5 tons on the road in their cargo roll. But that was 60+ years ago at road speeds lower than today and with other drivers who understood that you didn't cutoff a fully loaded truck and expect it not to run them over.

But having said all that it would make a classy looking haul a CMP with a Carrier in the bed or in tow.

Get the F60s as a support vehicle it looks like a good one.

Cheers Phil