Khaki Green #3 paint colour

[Jordan Baker]

Hi everyone

Well I got my paint back from teh paint place the other day. Spent Saturday spraying parts.

Anyways Ive taken a couple of scans.

The first shows the inside of one of the ebay mirrors. I took it apart figuring it would be very NOS paint. The second part is a piece painted in the paint mixed up. For the paint mixed up I used the inside of a Mk2 helmet as it matched parts with the paint still intact.

The ebay mirror is much more green then what I had mixed up. Also my paint ended up being semi gloss when it should have been flat. So this may be changing slighty how hte colour looks to me.

Would the ebay mirrors be Kahki Green #3 or are they something else? If they are infact KG#3 it would apear at least to me that the paint fades from a Green/grey colour to Green//brown and then finally 60 years later to a yellow/green for those parts that have been out in the sun.

[Jordan Baker]

Here is the next photo

This is of a piece painted in the paint I had mixed up. WHat do you guys think.

[Jordan Baker]

The next two photos show my carrier with its first coat of paint that had been mixed up.

To me at least it looks a bit on the gray side of things

[Jordan Baker]

The next one

[rob love]

Jordan
It looks like were about at the same place with our carriers; I just spent today painting my freshly sandblasted hull.
My paint didn't come out quite as planned either, despite the use of a couple NOS parts and the computer paint reader thing. And even with 50% flattener (and this stuff costs more than the paint) it still has too much gloss for my liking.
I have seen other guys paint where it also was too glossy, and it's nothing a year or two in the sun doesn't fix.
My girlfriend said it looks brown, which I take as a good sign, because the khaki color kind of falls right in between brown and green, depending on what light you look at it in. I personally though it looked too much like US olive drab, but as it dries, it is moving more towards the Cdn khaki color.

The new production carriers photo is interesting. I always thought the upper armour went on after the engine and powertrain was installed, but the hulls shown in the photos appear to have no powertarain whatsoever, although they include the windows and even the canvass straps to hold the tarp and camnet.

[Bob Carriere]

Years ago when repainting M37 for a 4 wheel drive club we were instructed to use regular gasoline as a thinner as it would make the paint dull...... we mixed Tremclad to what looked like army paint... thinned with gasoline..... covered very well and the paint lost its semi gloss in about 4 weeks in the sun.......

I still use gasoline or naphta when using Gillespie in the spray gun and works fine for me.

Bob C.

[Jordan Baker]

Here is the paint code that they gave me to get the colour made up again.

Paint came from

Dura Chemicals Ltd.
526 Grays Rd.
Hamilton, ON.
L8E 2Z4

Tel. (905) 561 9100
Fax (905) 561 9190

Gloss Urethane Neutral Base.

HB 3Y HC 4Y36
HN 1Y24 HW1Y26
DX 660 gr.

They also gave me a Gloss Urethane Catalyst.

Ive got no idea what this stuff means but it should make what ive got. Ive typed the formula out the same way as they wrote it down on my invoice.

[chris vickery]

Jordan, if you want to kill the gloss in your paint, use regular laquer thinner as your reducer. Gasoline may work fine but I'd rather use an actual paint component than use gas. Another method to dull semi or gloss paint is to overcoat the first coat just after it has flashed off - the undercoat will pull the thinners out of the second coat resulting in a flat appearance, although sometimes it will end up blotchy.
Failing these solutions, go back to the paint place and ask for a flatting agent to add to your batch. The only problem with this is that flatting agent is usually quite pricey and often you need two quarts to a gallon to achieve the proper effect. Flatting agents usually around $30 to $50 a quart!

[Lynn Eades]

Jordan, anything but gloss paint is basically porous and will let the moisture in to the metal. The old paint was full of lead which protected the steel. Paint is one of the most difficult areas in a restoration. I really enjoy your threads. To me it's what the forum's all about.

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Lynn Eades
anything but gloss paint is basically porous and will let the moisture in to the metal. The old paint was full of lead which protected the steel.

Lynn,

Good point.....I learnt this years ago and always use a gloss as undercoat as a barrier to stop the damp getting through. If doing OD or similar, I would use Deep Bronze Green which is reasonably priced here and does not show too much if the top coat gets chipped or rubbed.

When the British Army went to IRR green, all new vehicles and equipment was not permitted to have gloss paint underneath, this being because it would show up with infra red equipment. Downpoint on this was the lack of metal protection and rust was soon developing.

Richard