Ammo Brackets

ron · #1 16-12-06, 06:39

Hi Guys,
Can any one tell me what the thread is that was used to attach the ammo brackets that hold the ammo boxes to the rear wall, I have tried u n f & b s f , can they be B A ,?
Thank You,
Regards,
Ron,

ron · #2 16-12-06, 06:55

These are the brackets that I was talking about there are two original ones at the rear and the others are ones that I made, they are painted now and look the part.
Ron.

ron · #3 16-12-06, 07:01

I had one original bin, so used it as a copy to make the other one The original one is the one on the left

ron · #4 16-12-06, 07:08

This shows them front on they are also painted now and it makes a big differance
Ron,

Keith Webb · #5 16-12-06, 08:55

Hi Ron

Nice work... where did you get the catches?

ron · #6 16-12-06, 09:33

Hello Keith,
Just a few of the things left over from the old days, most things were disposed off, but I kept a few things,wish that I had a crystal ball all those years ago,
Regards,
Ron,

Ian Pullen · #7 16-12-06, 09:59

Good job on the repro Ron, I think you will find that the catches are the same ones used on CMP tool boxes etc that sit under the tray.

ron · #8 16-12-06, 11:38

Hi Ian,
Yes I agree they are just a standard catch that was very common in military usage in those days,
Ron,

Pedr · #9 19-12-06, 11:51

Hey Ron

Sorry I've taken so long to get back to you. Just found your email tonight.

The screw that you are after is,

B9015 Screw - set - hex. - 0BA X 7/16 in.

and

W18 Washer - spring - 1/4 in.

Sorry, hope this is a help

Pedr

Keith Webb · #10 19-12-06, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian Pullen
Good job on the repro Ron, I think you will find that the catches are the same ones used on CMP tool boxes etc that sit under the tray.

That type of catch was common to Ford products. The FGT for example uses them throughout the vehicle. Holden made a similar one, but used folded steel rather than a bronze casting.

ron · #11 20-12-06, 05:07

Hi Pedr,
Thanks mate I have tried a few differant ones so will them a go,She will not be long now before she is mobile,
Regards,
Ron.

ron · #12 20-12-06, 05:11

Hi Keith,
Thanks for the info on the catches, seems a shame to wreck a Ford just for the catches, Oh well what the hell I do need the catches, Now where did I put that gas axe?
Just kidding,
Regards,
Ron,

Rob Beale · #13 20-12-06, 06:58

your rate of progress is impressive.

Looking at the stowage boxes, I see a difference to NZ produced ones which were welded along the seams, whereas yours are spot welded.
Still the catches are the same, also used on Valentines and similar to ones used on Centurions too, though they had a different wire clip.

Keep up the good work
Rob

Lynn Eades · #14 20-12-06, 10:50

And if I recall correctly some do not allow for a padlock.

ron · #15 20-12-06, 11:03

Hi Lyn,
It seems that they vary, I have had them in the past with and without the padlock hole in them. I found an interesting thing today the round mounting blocks that are used on the later carriers, or at least the one that I was working on. had the round mouting block thread sleeved into the block why they did this and simply did not just drill and tap it is beyond me,any thoughts on this?
Regards,
Ron,

ron · #16 20-12-06, 11:20

Hello Rob.
Thanks for the kind comments, I have a few things on my side we have good weather and a good shed to work in
and I have the time, The hold ups are locating the parts required, and it was quite a long wait to get the wheels retyred, Yes the method of making the boxes also seems to vary it may have been who got the contract at the time I have boxes here,in differant sizes
that are both spot welded and some with normal welds, It seems as if nothing can be said that this was the only way that it was done, one thing we can be sure of is that nothing changes except change itself,
Regards,
Ron,

Rob Beale · #17 20-12-06, 20:24

I borrowed some lower engine covers, and was convinced I had two types: early and late production, but couldn't tell which was which, till a friend found an illustrated spare parts list from Australia which has 19 odd pages of sketches of nearly every component! Now I know that the left and right rear covers are indeed different.

On my carrier project, ten weeks of concentrated effort by a team of up to 12 people saw it progress from a sandblasted hull in early Feb to its debut running in the ANZAC parade. I had a lot of sub assemblies ready to fit before then, so things flowed. That was 1995, and each year since another area was tackled so it is now nearly complete.

Biggest highlight was taking it to the Wairarapa Airshow in 2003 when we had 10 carriers, and stirred up you Aussies to do YOTC!

For years I carried measuring tape, calipers and a notebook and camera, checking measurements on every carrier I saw, but the use of borrowed patterns is best as there is always one detail omitted!

Best wishes for a Xmas run in your carrier
Rob

Lynn Eades · #18 20-12-06, 23:55

I'll have to stand up. 9It's gone over my head) I don't understand what your trying to tell me.

ron · #19 21-12-06, 08:22

Hi Lynn,
Sorry I did not explain my self to clearly, I removed a couple of the round tool mounting blocks that were partly rusted away, and on later looking at them I was supprised to see that the taped holes in these blocks were not just drilled and taped but rather the hole was simply drilled to size and the taped insert pressed into this hole, seems a lot of trouble to go to, I just wondered if any one else has come across this before?
seems rather a long way to go,I can not see any reason to do the job this way,
Regards,
Ron,

Alex Blair (RIP) · #20 21-12-06, 13:35

Quote:

Originally posted by ron
Hi Lynn,
Sorry I did not explain my self to clearly, I removed a couple of the round tool mounting blocks that were partly rusted away, and on later looking at them I was supprised to see that the taped holes in these blocks were not just drilled and taped but rather the hole was simply drilled to size and the taped insert pressed into this hole, seems a lot of trouble to go to, I just wondered if any one else has come across this before?
seems rather a long way to go,I can not see any reason to do the job this way,
Regards,
Ron,

Ron..
The only reason that I could think of is that if it is armour plate ..the armour is too brittle to thread...it would then make sense to put a threaded insert in a round hole and shrink fit it or peen it in place..
Other than that I don't know..

ron · #21 22-12-06, 03:36

Hi Alex,
Thanks for the reply, Its got me tricked the bases are mild steel, and its just that I can not see any other reason than the one that you have suggested, I just noticed it and thought it was worth a mention in here,
Regards,
Ron,