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Old 20-10-11, 20:49
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Default Pics of Accelerator pedal

Hi all, does any one have easy access to pics/dims of what’s going on behind the accelerator pedal. I have to make the rod/shaft that transmits pedal movement to the carrier’s center line. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Old 20-10-11, 21:46
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I will post the info you need later. You should have two cast lugs mounted on the floor. There is a 1/2 inch dia. rod that rotates in those two lugs. One end has an arm with a roller that is actuated by the throttle pedal, the other end has a small arm that pulls the throttle rod from the rear. The clevis pin in the small arm protrudes to the left. A throttle return spring hooks in a grove in the clevis pin, the other end goes to a small lug on the floor.
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Old 20-10-11, 22:31
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Default Accelerator jack shaft

Thanks Lynn. I was able to get the two castings from Brian A. and that told me rod dia., but that is as far as I got. Arm lengths off the jack shaft would be great.

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Old 21-10-11, 01:40
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Here you go.
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Old 21-10-11, 20:38
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Lynn,

That information is a huge help. I am sure others will also benefit from it in the future. Your description and pics make it apparent to me how the forked end holds the roller but I am still confused about one thing. On the back of the pedal there are two angle pcs with one side of each having a large oval. Does the arm/roller of the ½” jack shaft do anything with the ovals? I had assumed that the roller would some how be inside the ovals. Now it looks as if the ovals have no purpose and the roller rides on the back of the pedal between the angle pcs. Is that the case? Sorry to be a pain.

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Old 21-10-11, 21:04
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The clevis pin that holds the roller in the arm, also goes through the slots in the pedal. I guess it stops the top of the pedal falling back toward the driver.
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Old 21-10-11, 22:02
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Ding Ding Ding, We have a winner. Now I've got it. Awesome picture. Thank you so much!

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Old 28-10-11, 17:40
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Hi carrier folks. I had some success in fabricating my accelerator jack shaft thanks largely to the information Lynn posted above. I have one more question though. My carrier project did not have a bulkhead when I started. I made mine with pictures and dimensions I received from other forum guys. After going through the thousand or so pictures I have collected over the last couple of years I don’t seem to have a single one that shows where the accelerator push rod goes through the bulkhead. I have a rectangular slot next to the round hole for the hand start handle but do both the clutch rod and accelerator rod both use it or am I missing a hole? Any pictures and greatly appreciated and thank you all for the help.

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Old 28-10-11, 18:04
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Hi stephen, Just an observation on the rebuild : Carriers only feature a single spring washer on the assembly bolts, I see you are putting in flat washers as well. I am looking for a picture of this too, dimensions/profile of those 3 spring plates would be good too if any one has them.

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Old 28-10-11, 20:41
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I have drawings for the three throttle leaf springs, there're at work but I can post next week.

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Old 28-10-11, 21:02
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Is that an AP bullet hole through your front plate and top of your throttle pedal?
The rod dimensions I have posted will be too long for your clevises.
If you have accurately positiond the big hole in your div plate the following info should work.
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Old 28-10-11, 21:39
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Lynn,
LOL, no, no bullet hole. This is what I started with. I hope all of you out there arnt cringing to bad. Thanks for the drawing, yep I only cut the one hole.
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Old 29-10-11, 13:48
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The pictures you show are of MkII* carriers.
The MkI does not have the starter hole, and is a different layout
Steve, I don't know what your carrier is. MkI or MkII?
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Old 31-10-11, 19:39
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Thanks for all the pics guys. Every bit is very helpful. My project is a MKII.
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Old 18-11-11, 21:50
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Default Throttle leaf spring drawings

Hi

Please see the attached for copies of the throttle leaf springs. Thickness should be 1.35/1.4mm

Hope they help

Ben
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Old 18-11-11, 23:05
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Default Throttle leaf spring drawings

Thank you Ben. Some day we will have a drawing for every part.
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Old 19-11-11, 01:25
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Default Throttle leaf spring

I made my leaf spring from the blade of an old handsaw-get one at the flea market -mine has been in use for years -Greg
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Old 19-11-11, 16:57
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Greg,
That`s a great idea. Will use it on mine.
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