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Ford Canada Conventional and Modified Vehicles
Found an expired auction listing for a Ford Motor Co of Canada Shop Manual / Maintenance Manual, for Conventional and Modified Conventional Vehicles. This is the First Edition of manual SE-29-C and was issued February 1946.
bafe0d2b-fd26-4ebf-b5f2-bffe67870a4c.jpg c88b5f21-e0c8-4a3d-a764-c5028bfae5c4.jpg This has a list plus some pictures of the models described in the manual. This is a nice addition to the thread Ford Model designation a831ca55-6e2e-45bd-8029-8b9f92597faa.jpg Shown here are a 1941 Ford Fordor C11A sedan and a 1942 Ford Fordor C21AS Staff Car. You can see the C11A is a Conventional vehicle, with just light alterations from a civilian vehicle. Ian McCallum noted: "Modified sedans started with the 39 model. I have a '40 01A(F). Changes included hide seats, fabrikoid interior plus military fitments and extra instrumentation." The manual noted it had a "grille guard on front bumper". The "S" in C21AS denotes Special, it clearly has more modifications including heavier bumpers and a roof rack. It looks like the mudguards / wings are cut-back and it has a raised suspension? ecfc0c3d-5b30-4829-854c-c53cb6d93b4a.jpg 1278b5f8-9bd3-48d1-8f22-c25234780e27.jpg
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Station Wagons
Also included is well known 1941 C11AD Station Wagon (Truck Type). It's actually a C11ADF as it has right hand drive:
90d203b5-7f4d-46a2-b4cc-0a43b99c2c36 C11AD.jpg And the less well known 1942 C21AS Station Wagon (Conventional Modified). This also has RHD, so it would be an C21ASF, right? 0bd3da13-a7c8-41bc-b1cb-344bf8c10758.jpg 796896a3-2f0a-4152-89e4-3a5e12a8ebfb.jpg
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Manaual SE-92-C
I did a little searching and found there is also a second edition of manual SE-92-C dated January 1947, and a 1948/1949 version. Thy seem to have been updated with the post-war models which were essentially technically the same as the wartime models.
One of the sellers offering the reproduction shop manual for 1942-1948 Ford, Mercury, & Lincoln Zephyr models notes: "The first shop manual produced by Ford in the U.S. was available in 1949. NO service manual was published or available from Ford in the USA before 1949. The repairs and service information was through the "Ford Service News", sent to the dealers. However, Ford of Canada did publish this service manual to cover the earlier years. The service procedures are the same for both US & Canadian made models, but, there are some references to models that do not apply to U.S. models. This manual contains complete instructions covering the Maintenance and Repair of Ford, Monarch, and Mercury Passenger Cars and Ford and Mercury Trucks manufactured by the Ford Motor Company of Canada."Those of you who have seen Ford Canada CMP manuals before, will clearly recognize the layout of the maintenance manuals published for military use. Ford Canada apparently choose to make some money by offering the manual to the public buying surplus vehicles. even though it was against Ford USA’s policy. dprf-03-39sm.jpg dprf-03-39sm-2.jpg img2093_51155.jpg img2095_51157.jpg 1939-48-ford-mercury-service-manual-sample.jpg
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Hanno.
Did any of those wartime production vehicles have data plates added inside to denote relevant manuals, or did they simply rely on the conventional prewar data plates under the hood or on the door frames, which usually did not reference manuals? The fact that Ford Canada deemed it useful postwar to publish a series of manuals targeting the civil population, suggests these vehicles were far more common than we think in civilian use. Publication probably targeted the commercial dealership network that would not have seen anything new coming through their doors for six years and with enough changes visible to leave them scratching their heads. Smart idea on Ford’s part really. And now that I think of it, were any commercial manuals every published in Holland after the war covering any of the ex military vehicles that were in commercial use? David |
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We all know that the US automotive industry lobbied for regulations keeping the vast numbers of surplus vehicles out of their home market. The regulations which prevent importing of ex-MDAP equipment into the USA are still in effect today. I don’t think the Canadian government was that protective? This very manual translated into Dutch would have been very valuable for Dutch speaking owners in Holland and Belgium. I have never seen one, certainly worth investigating. Apparently a French one was published, possibly this was aimed at the French speaking military during WW2? Bart Vanderveen told me that while drafted in the Army, he served on the huge vehicle dumps. His Sergeant kept one each of every Canadian Army manual he could lay his hands on. He had a huge private collection. Many years later, Bart heard his former Sergeant had passed away. Upon contacting his widow re. the collection of manuals, he learned to his dismay the widow had thrown the trunk with manuals in the trash...
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SE-29CF - French version
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The fact that these manuals have not appeared in Dutch or Portuguese (who were prodigious Colonial users of CMPs and MCPs post-war) indicates that they were not intended for secondary market military users. Were any of the wartime manuals (MB-F1, MB-FUC01, MB-C1, MB-C2, etc) printed in French for Quebecois Canadian Soldiers?
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Data plates
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C11ADF in the Western Desert
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8d610ba2bc38a94b_large.jpg Source: https://images.google.com/hosted/lif...2bc38a94b.html Also photos of a less fortunate one.... d5cbbf05b8eefd7c_large.jpg 9f7b9a23a2395f1f_large.jpg Source: https://images.google.com/hosted/lif...7b9494542.html | https://images.google.com/hosted/lif...3a2395f1f.html
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Dh 89
The DH89 air ambulance had plenty of space to land - probably 1000 square kilometres or more !
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Ford C21AS staff car
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Being a 1941 model, that would make it a C11AS rather than a C21AS, right? 99371849_10157206809192653_297651030433202176_o.jpg 98329549_10157206809012653_6923109306850082816_o.jpg
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1942 Ford Fordor C21AS Staff Car
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Victoria, Australia
"Pushing the reconaissance car through the mud."
FL15589501.jpg Australian Armed Forces on manoeuvres in the snow at Buffalo Date [ca. 1942] Identifier(s) H98.105/5268 Source: https://viewer.slv.vic.gov.au/?entit...&mode=overview Quote:
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RNZAF 1942 Ford Fordor Staff Car
RNZAF 1942 Ford Fordor Staff Car.
RHD, black, painted grille and trim - looks like the cheapest no-frills version from the catalog. Reportedly, ten (10) examples of the 1942 Ford V8 Fordor were exported to New Zealand during the Second World War. Note the census number "MT2230" on the bonnet and license plate "5209" on the front bumper which has retained it's chrome Quote:
Rear shot of another Ford Fordor in RNZAF use. 10689421_755119634523628_2426199304944364027_n.jpg
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1941 Ford Fordor C11A
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From "Pat Chilton's World War 2"
C11ADF of the RAF hiding behind Grumman Martlet III HK842 "O" of the Fleet Air Arm.
Location: Malakal, a town in Upper Nile, South Sudan 4508310175_3e1c1e33c2_k.jpg Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/billch...th/4508310175/
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Cut-down C11ADF - somewhere in the Middle East or North Africa?
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