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Old 12-11-13, 04:50
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http://milinme.wordpress.com/category/bahraini-army/

Scroll down down down, and there they are, Lynxes! So the important question, when did the Dutch sell theirs?

The interesting subtext is the only other Lynx user is just across the Gulf in Iran, and theirs are ex-Canadian.
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Old 12-11-13, 19:31
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I seem to have missed the photo...can you post it please?
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Old 12-11-13, 22:00
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there they are, Lynxes! So the important question, when did the Dutch sell theirs?
"Lynx" is the Canadian designation, the Dutch called them "M113 C&V" (Commando & Verkenning, or command and reconnaissance).

The Royal Netherlands Army phased out their 266 M113 C&Vs in the early 1990s and replaced them with the Fennek wheeled recce vehicle. Next to other equipment, the Netherlands exported 35 M113 C&V and 25 YPR-765 ACV to Bahrain around 1994-1997.

IIRC others were exported to Chile, but many C&V's ended up on ranges to serve as cannon fodder - see some pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirk_br...detail/?page=3

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Old 12-11-13, 22:08
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I seem to have missed the photo...can you post it please?
Scroll down to the section Royal Bahraini Army - M113 Family, and look closely at the captions. They call them M113 1/2, and have the distinctive overhead gun, and step hole in the front mudguard.
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Old 13-11-13, 20:08
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They appeared to big to be Lynx and I scrolled right past...thanks for pointing them out. They always seem so small compared with the conventional M113 and without one to compare them too.
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Old 23-02-14, 00:49
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Just came across this old thread. Hate to call you out on your ID there Terry, and I really don't have the correct answer for you but, as far as I can see those vehicles have x5 road wheels vice X4 on a Lynx.
There are x4 photos of 1131/2 C&V on parade. The fourth one shows the side best and you can count wheels. Like I said, I don't know what they are, but I'm pretty sure they're not Lynxes

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Old 23-02-14, 02:06
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I am going to go out on a limb here in a couple of ways.

First off I agree with Terry but not for the cut out but because of the shape and height of the turret and the location of it as well.

I would say Lynx but cant figure out if its ex cloggie oops Dutch or ex CF. Here is the photo that says Lynx to me.

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Old 23-02-14, 02:19
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Robin, did it just drive into the dust?
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Old 23-02-14, 03:03
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Ok,

I am prepared to put a pint wager that they are ex Dutch machines as the weapon looks to be the same as this one. Plus add to the fact that the YPRs came from the Dutch.

I rest my case. I drink Guinness.

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Old 23-02-14, 04:48
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Just came across this old thread. Hate to call you out on your ID there Terry, and I really don't have the correct answer for you but, as far as I can see those vehicles have x5 road wheels vice X4 on a Lynx.
There are x4 photos of 1131/2 C&V on parade. The fourth one shows the side best and you can count wheels. Like I said, I don't know what they are, but I'm pretty sure they're not Lynxes

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I see 4 road wheels, along with the sprocket and the idler. Definitely Lynx.
The step hole in the front plate of the track shrouds was a feature we first saw here in Canada on the newly purchased M113A2s in 1986. It had nothing to do with lynx or other variant....just a later feature from the manufacturer.
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Old 23-02-14, 05:39
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That Lynx is ex-Dutch.
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Old 23-02-14, 13:03
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So, who is buying me a pint is the more important question.

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Old 23-02-14, 15:33
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So, who is buying me a pint is the more important question.
I guess you are buying me a pint. Last November I wrote that the Netherlands government sold 35 M113 C&V and 25 YPR-765 ACV to Bahrain around 1994-1997.
How's that for a hint with a wooden clog, eh?

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Old 23-02-14, 19:01
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Thanks Rob, that's the photo I was referring to, and now that it's blown up I can clearly count the unique x4 road wheels of the Lynx/C&V.
Some cool memories of tooling down down muddy tracks in Pet with big rooster tails of muck shooting up behind us, terrified because it was waaaay too fast, but all three of us giggling like school girls over the I/C.

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Old 23-02-14, 22:05
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Default Persian (or Arabian) Gulf Lynx users

As I wrote in the original post, the Iranians also have Lynxes. I don't know where this picture came from.
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Old 24-02-14, 01:46
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Some cool memories of tooling down down muddy tracks in Pet with big rooster tails of muck shooting up behind us, terrified because it was waaaay too fast, but all three of us giggling like school girls over the I/C.

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Around 1984 there was a re-distribution of land force equipment, and the Lynx that were in 2PPCLI were being VMO'd out to other units. I was a young craftsmen at Base Maint, and got to do the short road test out back of the shop with one of the Lynx. As we were puttering across the field, a jack rabbit jumped out of nowhere and ran. The lynx quickly gave pursuit....only the chain link fence saved the rabbit. The lynx was light, and fast. I can only imagine what would be possible if they had been re-powered to some of the new M113 power-plant configurations that are available today.
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