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Old 17-01-20, 12:14
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Default WW2 Bicycle Mystery

I offered to help out a fellow MLUer with an old bicycle said to be a war time model of some sort.
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Old 17-01-20, 12:26
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It bears similarities to the British Army BSA bicycle in the frame and obviously the pedals but the headstem has a decorative pattern whereas the British model I understand has a plain headstem. There were no serial numbers like the British bicycles.

The seat stem and rear brake hub look correct.
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1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
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Old 17-01-20, 12:48
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I stripped the bicycle and scraping off the paint underneath the crank I found something interesting.
Someone may know what the letters and numbers mean but there is no mistaking the D^D stamps.
The numbers on the outside appear to read 19 39 but reading the other way could also be 62 61. There is also a faint 4 in the centre.
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1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored)
1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored)
Wiles Junior Cooker x 2
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Old 17-01-20, 12:59
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Removal of the front forks located the only other numbers.
Hoping someone can offer some further advise or information.
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1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored)
1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored)
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Old 17-01-20, 13:36
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From my limited knowledge Jack...

Malvern Star supplied ALL bikes to the Pacific theatre and used up a huge amount BSA parts in the process.

It is quite likely this is a Malvern Star manufactured bike and it will have BSA stamped bits.

Just bought a WW2 pushie and am reading a book called The Bicycle in War Time.

Amazing feats performed by Canadians, Aussies, New Zealanders, South Africans, Rhodesians and Brits on these machines.
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Old 17-01-20, 22:20
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Interesting to see an Australian made one. I really like military bicycles, but there is not a lot of info available.

Here's a thread I started a long time ago on my bicycle: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=20143

You can look at http://robvanmeel.nl/?q=search/node/bicycle for reprints of period manuals.

Googling for Malvern Star, finds you results like these: https://oldbike.eu/ww2-malvern-star-military-model/

There's an Australian forum with some references too: https://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/

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Old 17-01-20, 22:50
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According to my 'one reference"...

Malvern Star received its first Military bike order in 1940.

So if this is a 1939 bike it is more likely a complete BSA bike.

Australia was forced to manufacture all its own components after we were completely cut off from oversea's supplies.

My understanding is Malvern Star copied BSA bike bits once they had used up all the exisiting BSA stock on hand.

Maybe the War Memorial may have records Jack?
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Old 17-01-20, 23:26
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Thanks Tony and Hanno.
The bike could well be a ‘bitsa’ after all these years as the owner is unsure of its history. There is only green paint on it so doubt it has been rebuilt before. The frame is missing the Malvern Star trademark on the head stem so unsure what frame it is. Unless Malvern Star only added them later.
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1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored)
1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored)
Wiles Junior Cooker x 2
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Old 18-01-20, 12:19
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Found this number inside the rear fork
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Willys Trailer
1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored)
1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored)
Wiles Junior Cooker x 2
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Old 22-01-20, 12:28
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Stripped and blasted.
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Willys Trailer
1941 Fordson WOT 2H
1941 Fordson WOT 2H (Unrestored)
194? Fordson WOT 2D (Unrestored)
1939 Ford 1 ton utility (Undergoing restoration)
1940 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
1941 Ford 1 ton utility (Unrestored)
BSA folding bicycle
BSA folding bicycle
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3A gun tractor
1941 Ford/Marmon Herrington 3 gun tractor (Unrestored)
1941 Diamond T 969 (Unrestored)
Wiles Junior Cooker x 2
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Old 23-01-20, 06:21
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It is possible yours is a post war assemblage of compatible fitting parts.

In the 80s I was on exercise in Wainwright, Alberta and decided I wanted a bicycle to get around camp and explore. I found who in town sold bikes, and trudged in with my money. The old fella had a home workshop with an assortment of old bikes and what looked like a lot of parts.

I bought a 60s era CCM coaster bike that someone probably bought new from a catalogue, rode for years, put away, and the old guy bought it. He was just recycling serviceable bikes. It is possible you ugly but serviceable bike was the same thing. A used bike that needed some work, and parts were added to a wartime frame.
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