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White M3A1 AOP Windshield and Door armour
Gidday all,
I am in the process of getting some repro armour made for the doors and front windshield of my scout car. I have some wooden templates of the size of the armour. I also have a few drawings showing some of the dimensions for both doors and windshield. I should be able to figure out the hinge mounting holes without any problems by just fitting the templates into place. However, I don't have the dimensions for the placement of the viewing ports and their mounting holes on either the the doors or the windshield armour, or the windshield armour prop rod hole placement on the windshield armour. Would anyone have some access to a plan or could send me some dimensions for these please? From what I can see on the windshield armour, the slot for the windshield wipers is at the centre point of the where the viewing ports are located. Can someone confirm please? Could someone please give me the actual measurements for the windshield wiper slots and the height of the viewing ports? I have the dimensions of the viewing ports on the windshield and door armour as 8" by 3 1/2" with a 1" radius on the corners. What is the height of the viewing port on the windshield armour and the door armour? Any assistance would be appreciated.
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Cheers, Darryl Lennane 1943 Willys MB 1941 Willys MBT Trailer 1941 Australian LP2A Machine Gun Carrier 1943 White M3A1AOP Scout Car 1944 Ford M8 Armoured Car 1945 Ford M20 Armoured Car Last edited by Big D; 24-05-13 at 22:03. Reason: typo |
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G'day Darryl,
If you haven't had your door shields made as yet, then I have original Aussie AOP door shields on my USA White Scout Car. I know that they are not correct but have done me well for 28 years. If you are able to locate a pair of original USA uncut door armour, them I am happy to do a swap. That might be a better way out than having some un-original ones made. Let me know your thoughts. regards Rick.
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I have an m2a1 halftrack, not sure if those dimensions will help you?
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White M3A1AOP
Gidday Rick,
I haven't got anything made up as yet so that is a tempting offer - thanks. My only problem is that I am hoping to get the vehicle ready for a show in 3 months so it doesn't leave me much time to find some originals. Do you mind if I keep this in mind as an option? Thanks.
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White M3A1AOP
Hi Andrew
I am pretty sure much of the armour on the M2A1 halftrack is the same as that on the M3A1 scout car. Maybe someone else can confirm? Otherwise, could I send you the outer dimensions of the door and windshield and see if they are the same as yours? Thanks.
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The White Stuff
Hi Darryl, I have a windshield armour plate that l hope is not too inaccessible, it's in amongst a pile of stuff. I'll see if I can hook it out and get the measurements for you.
From what I know of half tracks I believe there is very little that will fit the scout car although it looks the same. David
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White M3A1AOP
Hi David
Thanks for that. Much appreciated.
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White M3A1AOP
Gidday all,
David or Rick – I wonder if you or the other scout car owners can confirm something else for me please. I’m looking at the mount that the radiator shutter assembly sits on which is attached to the front of the chassis. It is shown in the photos attached. I am fairly sure I know the answer to this question but I’m just looking for confirmation that this bracket should not be shaped as mine is. The plate that is bolted to it sits vertically on mine and I figure it should be canted at a bit of an angle. The plate itself shows no signs of damage, but I’m just wondering if the mounting bracket has been bent from a frontal impact or whether it should be shaped in the way it is. If it has been bent it has been done very neatly by I’m guessing a very straight on frontal impact but then again I guess it could have been designed like that. I put some arrows on the picture pointing to the area where it mounts on the chassis, but I'm not sure how clear they are. I can’t find any pictures of this mount so have nothing to compare it to. There aren’t too many other bends on the vehicle and the shape of the mount looks out of place. Could someone let me know please? Thanks.
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Hi Darryl, I had a look at the area in question forward of the radiator mount and on both vehicles here it is the same as yours. The armour plate with the hole for the crank-handle has been pushed back with the bracket at each end partially doubled back on itself and the cross brace twisted. I'm certain that they were not made this way. This piece of armour must be vulnerable to being struck somehow.
I have some measurements for the door upper armour that I will post here for you but the only piece I have has been messed with along the upper edge so can't provide full information. Still to sort the camera problem. David
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