Iltis Recce version

[servicepub (RIP)]

I have seen a number of photos with various MGs mounted, mostly C6 G7.62 GPMG.
The original plan was to have a Recce version but I am unsure if this actually happened. Does anyone have info on this and on any MG mounts applied to the Iltis? So far I have seen a fixed mount on the roll bar, a passenger side mount on a post and an articulated mount on the rear deck which appears to be post-mounted and not attached to the roll bar.
Thnx,
Clive

[rob love]

The recce Iltis did not come to fruition. Perhaps the Conservative government of the time did not want to pretend they had supplied the reserves with a fighting vehicle.

There was also a proposed vice-regal Iltis. Not sure they ever went any further either.

[David Dunlop]

Wasn't that project replaced by a 2-1/2 Ton Tipper?


David

[servicepub (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

There was also a proposed vice-regal Iltis. Not sure they ever went any further either.

The remaining M38A1s in the system demonstrate that the Iltis version never took off.

Any comments on the multiple MG mounts that seem to be around? Are they all local manufacture?
C

[rob love]

Either local manufacture or entered limited service when the army dragged the poor things to Afghanistan. Seems to me that subject has been covered before here on MLU with regard to the Afghanistan mounts.

I have seen some where the militia strapped C9s to the folded down windshield.

The lack of the recce Iltis may have had something to do with the change from C5A1 to C6 GPMG, which started in the late 80s. In the end, the reserves did not get one for one when it came to the MGs. By the time the last of the old C5A1s were withdrawn, the Iltis was soon to follow. I was last issued a Browning C5A1 here in Shilo around early 1997 if I recall correctly, but with a M113A2 and not a soft skin vehicle though.

The M38a1Cdn2 ceremonial Jeep is still used here in Shilo for change of Command parades.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Stuart Fedak

The word on the street in Ottawa, is during the technical concept tests, the mounts kept on bending the body frame of the Iltis when mounted on the pax side.

Hmmm, never heard of that happening on a Jeep in over 15 years of service use. In fact I still use the mount on my Jeep for it's intended purpose, albeit semi-automatic. Still no problems to report as the Jeep nears 50.

[strat1]

We used the Iltis is RHQ RECCE when we were not in the Lynx, there was never a mount, we just added sandbags with the ground mount (bi pod) on it. Some used the "dog leg" from the Lynx C & R mounted on a pole.

The only true RECCE Iltis was in 2002, when in Kandahar the Iltis was fitted with a Coyote Ack Ack mount, fitted with a C6 GPMG.

Anthony

[strat1]

Here is a photo from 2002, the TOW Iltis fitted with one of our Ack Ack Mounts taken from the Coyote's.

[servicepub (RIP)]

There was a technical paper written for the MGs mounts for the Iltis. For those who have access to the DWAN, you can look up the document name in the technical documents list. Search for <Iltis>. Unfortunately this document is not in a PDF, but the original hard text is housed at one of the technical library. Perhaps an ATIP request would shed light on this.

1 - Can anyone get a copy of this for me as I don't have DWAN access?
2 - What was Op 'Grey Husky'


Some very useful information in this thread. Thanks.
C

[strat1]

Grey Husky:

Zobol Province: Between June 30, 2002, and July 4, 2002, most of the 3 PPCLI Battle Group with RECCE SQN of the strathcona's were deployed in Zobol Province, about 100 km northeast of Kandahar, to establish a coalition presence there for the first time. During this deployment, the Canadians and the Afghan National Army conducted a sweep operation in the Shin Key Valley that produced information about recent Al Qaeda and Taliban activities. The RECCE SQN deployed to Qalat and stayed at the castle remains from time of Alexander the Great. We then conducted operations of patrols and surveillance.

Anthony