Non-military sword ID?

Dave Block · #1 22-11-06, 04:01

I know it's slightly outside the usual but perhaps someone has run across something similar to this. I picked it up about twenty-five years ago at a small antique shop in Port Credit (Ont.) The owner couldn't tell me any of its history and until I get a digital camera (next month?) this photo will have to do.
The blade is acid-etched with a rather busy floral design and some crosses but no makers name or markings. The scabbard & frog are dyed leather and the fittings are brass. One person suggested a Papal Guard sword but I don't think it's fancy enough for that. Definitely ceremonial, perhaps one of the grades of Freemasonry? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Dave

Jon Skagfeld · #2 24-11-06, 01:22

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Originally posted by Dave Block
Definitely ceremonial, perhaps one of the grades of Freemasonry?

Dave:

You won't find this sort of thing in a Masonic Hall, at least not up to and including the 3rd degree.

Looks very much like a Knights of Columbus item.

#3 24-11-06, 09:08

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Originally posted by Jon Skagfeld
You won't find this sort of thing in a Masonic Hall, at least not up to and including the 3rd degree.

Hmmmmm, how about the outer guard or Tyler being armed with a drawn sword to keep off all intruders etc.?

R.

Alex Blair (RIP) · #4 24-11-06, 13:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Block
I know it's slightly outside the usual but perhaps someone has run across something similar to this. I picked it up about twenty-five years ago at a small antique shop in Port Credit (Ont.) The owner couldn't tell me any of its history and until I get a digital camera (next month?) this photo will have to do.
The blade is acid-etched with a rather busy floral design and some crosses but no makers name or markings. The scabbard & frog are dyed leather and the fittings are brass. One person suggested a Papal Guard sword but I don't think it's fancy enough for that. Definitely ceremonial, perhaps one of the grades of Freemasonry? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Dave

Hi dave..
The Fleur de lise on the cross guard suggests French or Flemish..
Here is a modern Masonic Sword..$175.00...

http://www.twilightarmory.com/images...rds/ah4190.jpg

If it is a society sword you may find out from which one by the blade markings here...

http://www.ruble-enterprises.com/society_marks.htm

It looks like a K.Of C sword,similiar ones here..

http://www.carr.org/~meripper/kofc/assembly/swords.asp

Start with the markings on the blade and go from there..

Jon Skagfeld · #5 24-11-06, 15:47

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Originally posted by Richard Notton
Hmmmmm, how about the outer guard or Tyler being armed with a drawn sword to keep off all intruders etc.?

R.

Richard:

See below...different design. Not same as Tyler or IG.

Dave Block · #6 24-11-06, 19:41

other than a discreet number 3 on the crossguard there are no discernible markings. There appears to be a space on the blade for a name/motto but nothing is engraved there. I'll keep looking.

Cheers, Dave

Tim Sullivan · #7 28-11-06, 00:31

I'm gonig with Priory of Scion....guess it co-incides with the DVD release

Tim

Jon Skagfeld · #8 28-11-06, 02:59

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Originally posted by Tim Sullivan
I'm gonig with Priory of Scion....guess it co-incides with the DVD release

Tim

Tim: That reference would be "Prieure de Sion".

Tut,tut...you being from Hamilton, should know what happens occasionally at the Royal Connaught, on James Street.

I say, Pilgrim...how far have you travelled?