Carrier Data plates

[George McKenzie]

I am in the process of getting the data plate that goes behind the drivers head on my carriers. mvdataplates will do some on special order at a cost of $ 50 to $ 150
Might get a better deal with more orders . If you are in need of a plate or plates .Let me know . Also if you know where these are avalable else where let us know George

[Aidan]

George I could use one for my collection of Carrier parts, sign me up for one., Thanks Aidan

[Brad Mills]

I'm down as well for one...

[Doug Lavoie]

George,
I`m in for one well.
Doug

[kevin powles]

hi george, both my carriers are missing the data plates, so i would like two please.

kevin

[RichardT10829]

George i would also eventually want some made buddy, you could send mine in with Kevins and i would get them from him later (share postage costs of course)

i have spoken to the curator for Ford Canada who is researching our lower tub numbers it will take a few weeks for any potential results so hold off making any plates for 10128 until i get the reply

[George McKenzie]

Have talk to Dave at Military Data Plate and explaned to him more about the plate behind the driver .He thought it was made from heavy material .The part of one I have is made from thin brass.If he made the plate with the common information on it and then stamped by hand the individual information it would keep the cost down alot . He ask me if he could get an original plate to copy .He will will return it in the original condition to the person that he got it from .I would think one that is bent up a little as long as he can get the right size from it would be find .When he makes them he will have to have information for each carrier to put on the plate .George

[Gordons]

Hi George

I think these where the data plates where off your U/C, I took them off the U/C you have now, about 20 years ago
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sorry I do not still have these, I traded them to barry churcher a couple of months back, check with him, he may still have them.

Gordon

[jeff davis]

I could use 1
Jeff

[Jordan Baker]

Id be up for a set and Im sure friend of mine would also be up for a set.

[super dave]

I could use a set, but were they not stamped from the back side and were an aluminum plate and not brass??

[rob love]

I have only ever seen aluminum. The only brass ones I have seen were on the very early Cdn Bren Carriers which had the large brass plate on the right fender.

I would certainly be in for a publications plate. I think my data plate is still in one piece.

[George McKenzie]

Barry is willing to let us have his plates for to copy . Once I get a price I will let you know and each one will have to provide the information that he wants on the plate .Yes they are stamped from behind and that is why they have to be done by the plate maker .unless you have a set of left hand stamps the right size . All I have for a plate is a small corner left and it has paint on it and I just took for granted that it was brass . I'll scrape some paint off to see what it is tomorrow .The one on my Instrument pannel is okay and I can use it for a copy .Niegel"s Volume 2 page 41&42 tels you about the Data plates

[derk derin]

George,
Put my name on the list please for a set!
Derk.

[Marc van Aalderen]

George,

I would also like a set off data plates. Thanks in advance.

Marc van Aalderen

[Rene Pijper]

Originally Posted by George McKenzie

I am in the process of getting the data plate that goes behind the drivers head on my carriers. mvdataplates will do some on special order at a cost of $ 50 to $ 150
Might get a better deal with more orders . If you are in need of a plate or plates .Let me know . Also if you know where these are avalable else where let us know George

Can you sent me a picture from the plate I have a MK 1 for restoration so I'm looking for a lot of parts.
In advance regards Rene

[Pedr]

Brass versus Aluminium

You all may very well be correct that the originals were aluminium but its interesting that so few still exist. Could it be that as they are extremely thin, they haven't survived time and the elements?

If they were anodised like the data plates on the dash of "wheel-chocks", ( sorry read "Jeeps" ) and the aluminium surface was exposed it would be more critical that they be made from the original material; however, as the examples and descriptions given are all painted in carriers, would it not make more sense to make them from brass which has a higher tollerance to adverse conditions and is less affected by the electrolysis of dissimilar metals?

From an engineering perspective, if there are too many variations in the text that must be stamped onto the plates, your costs will once again rise. Your man is expecting quantity of the same plate, so that he can get his worker to mass produce. Changing wording on the stamping process takes time, writes in a factor of possible human error and will inevitably blow out expected costs. ( from experience ).

But saying all that, if the guys are prepared to wear the costs, there's nothing better than getting all of the little diamonds to finish your resto of perfectly. They are always the best bits - the little bits that are harder to find or make yourself.

Pedr

[RichardT10829]

from my experiences at work, unless they were put on with aluminium rivets its my guess that the rivets corrode the plate falls off and ultimately gets thrown away......or farmer joe or Lumber Jack whilst brutalising the carrier of its armour, throws it away.

another theory on rivets, if aluminium rivets are used in conjunction with the steel plate, over a long period the aluminium would react and oxidise eventually becoming brital, my example of this would be 99% french cars go look where the engine number plate should be, if your car is of any decent age i bet the plate has fallen off.

[derk derin]

I have my CMP data plate and it looks like a galvanized plate.The magnet does not stick to it so there is no metal in it,but there is small corrosion in certain spots like aluminum does when it starts to corrode.The plate itself looks like tin.
I would be interested in putting the proper type of data plate back on my carrier as it will not experience the harsh elements to corrode it again that saw the demise of the original plate.It has a home now that will keep it safe!
Derk.

[George McKenzie]

The 1/2" square piece that is left on my MK2 is aluminum .It got ripped off over time but shows no sign of deterioration .The rivet has not hurt the aluminum . This plate should have . MODLE SERIAL ENGINE & CD LV , information on it size about 11/2 "x3 Above this On my MK2 there is a square plate 2"x7" with Ford and Canada below. The Instrument panel has UNIVERSAL CARRIER No2 MK11 below that is Manufactured by below that is Ford Motor Company of Canada
On the MK1 It has the first two plates mention above plus the instrument panel has a plate 7/8"x 3 5/8"Manufactured by below Ford Motor Company of Canada below is Windsor Ontario .There is another plate by the gages. 3/4"x6" ,Starting carburetor control, below that Push down when starting from cold below that Release as soon as possible .These plates seam to all be aluminum The plate that I will get first is the Identification plate behind the drivers head .Would anyone know of other plates ? .There is an oval one with FORD on it ,but not many of them . George

[kevin powles]

Hi, I have attached a couple of pictures from the canadian carrier user manual which sets out the layout of carrier plate i.d. numbers. Here in the U.k. the only Canadian carrier plates I have seen seem to be pressed aluminium.

I can i.d. my model number as UC-G (Carrier gun mounted).
hull number CB-5322.
Order Number CDLV 213.

I dont know the serial number but the hull number featured in the carrier manual doesnt seem far off mine so maybe the serial number would be close too?.

I dont know the engine serial number too, so am open to suggestions from others with close numbers to those given above.

Kevin

[George McKenzie]

Thank's Kevin My front plate on the MK2 is CT 267514 7 > 327 1944 Ford
Under the 7 is 607 and under 1944 is 210 these numbers are up and down
Lower hull 25701 , behind comander CB24713 . C is for Canadian built . I havn't checked the engine # yet . The lower hull # on the MK1 is 10128,just 3 numbers from Richard Harrison"s I can get a engine # for this one .We will have to guess the rest .

[Barry Churcher]

George, the plates will go out in the mail this weekend.
Barry

[Greg Rogers]

I was just looking at George's serial numbers and realized that my Mk II numbers are reasonably close. I have the data plate; it's seen better days. I have a piece of front armour that might be the original one from this carrier, but I don't know my CT number. I can't find the CT numbers on the top edge of the plate. It may have been cut off. It looks like my hull is 25942. I guess I am somewhere just above CT 267514.

[George McKenzie]

Well it has been some time since I started this project .Dave Kelone is ready to take orders for the Serial # plate behind the driver's head . I had about 16 that want this plate but there is more now . If you check the orignal post about this you can get most of the information about the plate as to what to put on it . POST." Carrier Data Plate DEC 21 2009 " add my name on the search if you can't find it . I think the best way is for each one to contact David Kelone and provide the information to him that you want on the plate .The old site helps you to where you can find this information Two pages from the operating and workshop manual .
There is another plate that we can get him to make . The "Plublications plate .This is for the manuals that go with your modle of carrier .A lot of these plates will be the same for several carriers . Hope this works out for us OK Contact David Kelone at e-mail
George

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by George McKenzie

POST." Carrier Data Plate DEC 21 2009 "

Merged with said thread.

[George McKenzie]

Thank's Hanno for the short cut .For anyone needing help as to what to put on their plate this is the place to ask .There is some very knowledgeable guys on MLU

[Mike Timoshyk]

Hi George,

Put me down for a plate.....Mk1

thanks

cheers

Mike Timoshyk

[George McKenzie]

This is what a MK 2 plate will look like .It will be up to each individual to supply the infor mation for the plate for his particular carrier

[RichardT10829]

is it my eyes or does it say Mk2* are the Mk2 plates the same format as the Mk1's