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Old 29-01-09, 17:33
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Jan 29, 2009 11:24 ET
Decommissioned Warship to be Transferred to DND

BRIDGEWATER, NOVA SCOTIA--(Marketwire - Jan. 29, 2009) - The Minister of National Defence and the Atlantic Gateway, the Honourable Peter Gordon MacKay, today announced plans for Fraser to be transferred back to the Department of National Defence from its current owner, the Artificial Reef Society of Nova Scotia (ARSNS).

Despite the best intentions and best efforts of the ARSNS, the significant scope of maintaining Fraser proved to be beyond the capacity of the Society's resources. The vessel has been slowly deteriorating over the years.

Since DND has the capability and experience in managing large vessels, it was recognized that DND should play a role in improving Fraser's situation.

"We appreciate the hard work and dedication the ARSNS has shown over the years," said Minister MacKay. "By both parties coming to an agreement, we are able to take this opportunity to do the right thing by acting now to prevent further deterioration of Fraser and to develop a longer term plan for its future."

A comprehensive survey of the ship's condition will be conducted shortly. This will be accompanied by remedial work to address any immediate environmental, health or safety risks that are assessed during the survey. The work will also ensure that the ship is safe to move.

The title, custody and liability of Fraser will be transferred to DND immediately before the vessel is moved from Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, to a temporary berth.

DND is evaluating a number of disposal options, including preservation of the vessel for heritage purposes, sinking it to create an artificial reef or disposal as scrap.

Fraser has been in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, as a floating museum since 1997.

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Old 29-01-09, 19:08
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The Minister.. today announced plans for Fraser to be transferred back to the Department of National Defence from its current owner, the Artificial Reef Society of Nova Scotia (ARSNS).

Despite the best intentions and best efforts of the ARSNS, the significant scope of maintaining Fraser proved to be beyond the capacity of the Society's resources.

Since DND has the capability and experience in managing large vessels, it was recognized that DND should play a role in improving Fraser's situation.

"We appreciate the hard work and dedication the ARSNS has shown over the years," said Minister MacKay. "By both parties coming to an agreement, we are able to take this opportunity to do the right thing by acting now to prevent further deterioration of Fraser and to develop a longer term plan for its future."

DND is evaluating a number of disposal options, including .... sinking it to create an artificial reef or disposal as scrap.
I don't think I can follow the logic of this:
1. The Artificial Reef Society can no longer preserve the vessel. (I would have thought their intentions would be to use it to create an artificial reef!!)
2. The DND has the skills and finances to properly maintain the vessel as a Heritage Item, and..
3. They intend to demonstrate this by sinking or scrapping it!
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Old 29-01-09, 21:01
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I don't think I can follow the logic of this:

2. The DND has the skills and finances to properly maintain the vessel as a Heritage Item, and..
3. They intend to demonstrate this by sinking or scrapping it!
"logic of this" ... I’ll give you a hint Tony . . .

I’ve seen DND dismantle a 1950's type hanger down to its steel skeleton and then rebuild it again only to close the Base within a couple of years with the result that said building was torn down . . .

An Infantry Battalion’s barracks being totally renovated, followed a couple of years later by the battalion being relocated and said barracks being torn down, with having nothing been salvaged from within before hand . . .

... I could go on ...

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Old 29-01-09, 22:22
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HMCS Bonaventure, and hell, the Avro Arrow.... need I say more?
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Old 29-01-09, 22:30
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HMCS Bonaventure, and hell, the Avro Arrow.... need I say more?
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... I was going to mention the Bonaventure ... but that would be giving my age away ...


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Old 29-01-09, 23:16
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I saw a quote that was attributed to a German General that went something like;

“The Canadians always do well in battle because war is chaos and the Canadians practice chaos on a daily bases”.
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Old 29-01-09, 23:36
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... I was going to mention the Bonaventure ... but that would be giving my age away ...


Of course, some of us are aging more gracefully than others....
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Old 30-01-09, 00:31
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Of course, some of us are aging more gracefully than others....

... speaking of aging ... do Centurions still draw pension or has DND cut back on that also ...
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