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Old 30-07-15, 21:57
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B85 class vehicle
ECC code 121501
TRK UTIL LT ILTIS,
total qty purchased 2386,
CFR 1984 - 86214 is serial number BI01-12-84-86214,
Disposed by CFB Kingston 28 Nov 2005.

The EDR is tempermental, and availability can be sporadic. With this information, it is possible to do a $5 Access to Information search for all records associated with the CFR and SN. Some decoding of the jargon and abbreviations will be required, but you will see the same information (or more) as shown on the EDR.
Terry, can you suggest appropriate text to use in the Access to Information Request that would result in the most useful information. I know there is always a danger of being too specific, and of being too vague. Would it be useful to specify all information as contained in the EDR on the given CFR?

Can one ask for multiple CFR information in the same Access to Information Request?

Your thoughts?

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Old 31-07-15, 04:25
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The form is simple. The question has to be one that a complete stranger and bureaucrat will understand. Give the person as much information which department has what you need, which part of the big machine, and where you believe it will be found. Like I posted somewhere earlier, give them the CFR, vehicle type, and the serial number if known.

So, key words would be:

Department of National Defence, ADM (MAT), I would like all maintenance and user information on file for CFR 70-08876, M38A1 CDN 3 "Jeep", serial number believed to be 3453453453235345. Records are likely found on the EDR (Equipment Data Registry?). Response in pdf format on hard copy.

Pay your $5 by cheque to the Receiver General of Canada, or on line with a credit card.
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Old 31-07-15, 04:47
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Thanks, I made the request.
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Old 31-07-15, 15:34
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Correction to my last -

DND > ADM(Mat) > DGLEPM > Equipment Data Repository (EDR)
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Old 11-08-15, 19:21
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There is notice on the DIN that "Effective 10 Jul 2015 EDR Viewer is no longer available". There is still a very basic one available, but it does not have anywhere near the information that the detailed one had.

All good things must come to an end.
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Old 11-08-15, 19:29
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There is notice on the DIN that "Effective 10 Jul 2015 EDR Viewer is no longer available". There is still a very basic one available, but it does not have anywhere near the information that the detailed one had.

All good things must come to an end.
Plus, the basic one only covers the current vehicle with the CFR, so essentially the older vehicles get over-written when the CFR gets re-issued.

Glad we were able to scour it while it was still around Rob, and a big thanks to you for originally making the connection.
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Old 13-08-15, 03:12
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A coworker called Ottawa today to see if it was possible to salvage the data from the old EDR viewer. The answer was it is gone. Fact is it just didn't make sense paying anything to maintain data that was between 5 and 38 years old.....it just doesn't serve any military purpose.
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