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Old 13-11-20, 02:36
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Here is another treasure unearthed in recent days. These were apparently used on Shermans, Stuarts and what else? Does anyone know if there were different versions for each vehicle or does one size fit all? Any insights appreciated.

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Old 13-11-20, 04:27
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Nice piece of kit for Canadian winters and peacetime ....
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Old 13-11-20, 12:45
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It does look like one for a small hatch Sherman. There were similar hoods for most American armoured vehicle hull hatches but they were tailored to fit each vehicle type so it was only the style that was common.

Commanders generally had enough vision devices that they didn't need a purpose built windscreen / hood and could just close down if it got too cold or wet. However in practice these bad weather hoods were not very popular and are not often seen in period photos.

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Old 13-11-20, 17:29
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Default Sherman Driver's Hood and Windshield for use in foul weather

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Here is another treasure unearthed in recent days. These were apparently used on Shermans, Stuarts and what else? Does anyone know if there were different versions for each vehicle or does one size fit all? Any insights appreciated
Like David said, it certainly looks like a small hatch hull Sherman "driver's hatch hood" for use in foul weather . If you post a photo of the underside I can tell you more.

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While the tiny fittings (arrow) were installed early on, it is thought that supplies of the "driver's windshield and hood" only became available to the Detroit Tank Arsenal at about the same time as the dust cover. For power, the windshield wiper and defroster were plugged into a utility outlet on the instrument panel. When not in use, this item was stored on a shelf above the transmission.
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Driver's Hood and Windshield installed on a large hatch Sherman. As the hatch was larger, the windshield was wider, but it was of the same construction. Indeed these windshields were made for other tanks as well.
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Old 13-11-20, 20:57
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Here are a couple of inside shots showing wiper motor, plug and switches. Appears to have both wiper and heater/defroster elements in the glass.

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Old 13-11-20, 21:19
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Hanno,

Would this windscreen assembly be better on its own thread?

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Old 14-11-20, 08:31
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Would this windscreen assembly be better on its own thread?

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Old 14-11-20, 08:35
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Here are a couple of inside shots showing wiper motor, plug and switches. Appears to have both wiper and heater/defroster elements in the glass.
As far as I can see, the semi circular base on the bottom of the windshield matches the gutter of the small hatch Sherman.
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Old 15-11-20, 00:29
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Thanks for help with identification Hanno, all I need now is the small hatch Sherman to go with it! After I posted the second bunch of photos I got to thinking about a similar item I had bought 25 years ago. They were similar windshield type fixtures. I thought I had sold them all but I went out this morning to my storage yard and went digging. I found two left in a racoon infested bus ( gloves, mask and spray disinfectant required) and offer up a couple of photos. These must be 1950s NATO but I have no idea what application. They look very similar!

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Old 15-11-20, 11:53
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I don't think that that is a NATO stock number. If it was the '99' would make it a British item.
Note that this is not an AFV bad weather windshield to fit into a hatch opening but a (very) cold weather defroster to stick onto the inside of an existing windshield, and it talks about being for a car. If it was British it would use the word 'windscreen' instead of 'windshield' so I would guess it is Canadian or USA origin despite the German (?) packaging. Could it be for Canadian contract Iltis ?

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Old 15-11-20, 13:18
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The screen appears to have been made by SWF, a German auto parts manufacturer. As the instructions are in English they may have been made for US, Canadian or British forces in Germany. Cold winters there and need for something to cope with that.
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