F15A Followed me home

[super dave]

I just dived into the world of CMP's and the learning process begins. I was doing the usual internet exploring when I came across and ad for this F15A and made the deal for it. The main reason was it had the box on it as the few I have seen they are usually removed.When I called about it he said that there was another part of a military truck that goes with the deal and when I got there and found out it was the front end of a M3 US Scout car Anyhow I went to get it on Sunday which turned out to be the coldest day we have had lately at -29 but got it home ok

[super dave]

A couple pictures of the scout car. Interesting is it has a Hercules Diesel engine in it.

[super dave]

Has the number of 64-733 on the door, Mean anything ??

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Great find! I am always amazed by the condition of old trucks in Canada. Looks like the cold is good to preserve what could well be it's first coat of paint.

H.

[Kirk Armitage]

Very nice find, looks a tad chilly on the prairie ! Are the data plates still on the drivers door ? Keep the pics coming.
K Armitage

[Howard]

-29'?
OMFG I don't know how you do it.
I struggle getting out of bed when the temp drops below 20c
Cheers
H

[Shane]

Hey mate.

What a great find got any photos of the interior? Im with Howard, its a known fact that Australians drop dead at -1 that's why we keep our politicians in the ACT where its bloody cold but the bastards seem to come back to life.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by super dave

A couple pictures of the scout car. Interesting is it has a Hercules Diesel engine in it.

Very interesting!

As far as I know this was designated the M3A1E5, of which 200 were built with the Hercules DJXD diesel engine. These were reconverted to the regular Hercules petrol engine in 1942.
Another diesel-powered variant was the M3A1E1 which was fitted with the Buda Lanova 6DT-317 diesel engine. Of this version some 3,340 examples were delivered to the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease.

Now, what to do with this by-catch?
1) A guy in the US was looking for a DJXD a few years back, see the G503 forum: http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php...01262&p=581380. I am a member of the G503 forum so I could get you in contact with him.
2) If nothing else, with that art-deco lettering the engine block would make a great coffee table

H.

[Peter Duggan]

Dave,

Congratulations. A great find. Glad that the mosquitoes didn't bother you.

Peter

[rob love]

This time of the year it is not the mosquito of course, but those dratted snow snakes. Not venemous or anything, but they scare the crap out of you when they come popping out of the fresh snow.

Nice truck Dave. Just goes to show that there are still more out there.

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Kirk Armitage

Very nice find, looks a tad chilly on the prairie ! Are the data plates still on the drivers door ? Keep the pics coming.
K Armitage

Sorry no plates, When I first looked at the truck and purchased it the drivers door was not on it and it wasn't till I got home and most of the snow had blown out of the box that I found the door in the bed but all the plates were missing

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Very interesting!

As far as I know this was designated the M3A1E5, of which 200 were built with the Hercules DJXD diesel engine. These were reconverted to the regular Hercules petrol engine in 1942.
Another diesel-powered variant was the M3A1E1 which was fitted with the Buda Lanova 6DT-317 diesel engine. Of this version some 3,340 examples were delivered to the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease.

Now, what to do with this by-catch?
1) A guy in the US was looking for a DJXD a few years back, see the G503 forum: http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php...01262&p=581380. I am a member of the G503 forum so I could get you in contact with him.
2) If nothing else, with that art-deco lettering the engine block would make a great coffee table

H.

Thanks for the info, I posted some pictures on there and will see if anything become of it.

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Shane

Hey mate.

What a great find got any photos of the interior? Im with Howard, its a known fact that Australians drop dead at -1 that's why we keep our politicians in the ACT where its bloody cold but the bastards seem to come back to life.

Here are a couple but there are alot of parts missing like the speedo cluster and the drivers seat ect

[Walde Libera]

Dave
Congratulations we finally have a Ford in the family, looks reasonably complete. Don't see a dog house and just need one seat. The door numbers were late war, 2 numbers a dash than a 3 digit. The first 2 indicates type of vehicle, I remember the FAT had a 87 prefix than a 3 digit number. There was discussion on this years ago, should be information on this forum.
Walde

[super dave]

Well its been a while since I started this thread and have a chance to give a couple updates. As I had picked up this unit almost a year ago I had a good week as I have acquired 3 more units this week or I guess it is 2 1/2. This first one I had picked up looked pretty good when I first purchased it but when I got it home and started to look at it closely I found that it was in pretty sad shape drive train wise as the trany case was cracked, rear end was pooched and I believe that the engine block is cracked . So this week Luck would have it I came across 3 units and just got the other 2 home tonight from a road trip . Now I should have enough parts between the bunch to make a good one


A few pictures of the 1/2 one I picked up last Sunday but at least it had the data/serial plates on the dash.

[super dave]

Also can anyone tell me if these two items mounted inside on the back of the cab are original as there is a box and rod bolted to it ??

[super dave]

A few pictures of today's recovery

[super dave]

A few more, Its amazing that I hardly seen any CMPs in the last 10 years around here and in 11 short months that I now have 4


Also that all of these units are Fords and pretty much every Cmp that I have seen here in Alberta have been Fords and in BC they pretty much have been all Chevs, Any thought to this ???

[rob love]

I believe your 15cwt with the M-MACH-1 chassis would be from a KL welding lorry. If so, it likely has a fair pack of rear springs. The KLs were very heavy. The cab should also be in good shape. KLs did not put on a lot of unnecessary miles, and did not get abused like a regular cargo.

Re the Ford/Chevy thing, I find the same thing in this province. Other than specialized vehicles like the gin palace, pretty much all the CMPs I have ever found locally were Fords. Thank Goodness too, as that flathead is a work of art and engineering. The only chevs that have ever been in my yard were the ones where there was no Ford version available.

[super dave]

Originally Posted by rob love

I believe your 15cwt with the M-MACH-1 chassis would be from a KL welding lorry. If so, it likely has a fair pack of rear springs. The KLs were very heavy. The cab should also be in good shape. KLs did not put on a lot of unnecessary miles, and did not get abused like a regular cargo.

it has 12 leafs compared to the 1st one I got at 10 leafs

[super dave]

Originally Posted by super dave

Also can anyone tell me if these two items mounted inside on the back of the cab are original as there is a box and rod bolted to it ??

Does anyone have a clue as to whether the 2 items on the inside back of the cab roof are possibly original ??

[super dave]

Well I was able to pick up another piece to the puzzle yesterday the hard to find spare tire/tool box and the shopping list is getting smaller.


Just a general question to all of the cmp crowd that has more experience and knowledge than me but how many different variants of the toolbox/Spare tire holder were made as looking through various pictures I have seen some that are welded together, some that has a bit of a cutout on each side where the gas filler neck is and the one I picked up looks for the most part bolted together ??

[Kirk Armitage]

Originally Posted by super dave

Does anyone have a clue as to whether the 2 items on the inside back of the cab roof are possibly original ??

Great find , The box on the cab wall, behind the driver ,on you KL, looks to have the same bolt pattern as on my cab. First time I have seen a pic of this box. My cab wall did not have holes for the bar, pics can be seen under KL restoration in this forum.
Regards Kirk

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Kirk Armitage

Great find , The box on the cab wall, behind the driver ,on you KL, looks to have the same bolt pattern as on my cab. First time I have seen a pic of this box. My cab wall did not have holes for the bar, pics can be seen under KL restoration in this forum.
Regards Kirk

Thanks for the info, I looked up you thread and how is your project coming along ??

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by super dave

Just a general question to all of the cmp crowd that has more experience and knowledge than me but how many different variants of the toolbox/Spare tire holder were made as looking through various pictures I have seen some that are welded together, some that has a bit of a cutout on each side where the gas filler neck is and the one I picked up looks for the most part bolted together ??

Nice find!

I think the bolted variant was issued with the Completely Knocked Down (C.K.D.) 15-cwt bodies 2H1 and 2J1, because to me it makes sense to have a tool box which can be flat-packed alongside a flat-packed cargo box.

The ones with the cut-out were for the earlier 2A1, 2B1 (and early 2C1?) bodies to clear the short filler necks on the Cab 11 and 12.

[Kirk Armitage]

Originally Posted by super dave

Thanks for the info, I looked up you thread and how is your project coming along ??

Nothing done to the KL this year , other projects on the go . If you ever have that box off the cab ,measurements would be appreciated .
Regards. Kirk

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Nice find!

I think the bolted variant was issued with the Completely Knocked Down (C.K.D.) 15-cwt bodies 2H1 and 2J1, because to me it makes sense to have a tool box which can be flat-packed alongside a flat-packed cargo box.

The ones with the cut-out were for the earlier 2A1, 2B1 (and early 2C1?) bodies to clear the short filler necks on the Cab 11 and 12.

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Thanks, Its kind of what I thought it would be but was not sure that it might have been a ford chev thing.

[super dave]

Originally Posted by Kirk Armitage

Nothing done to the KL this year , other projects on the go . If you ever have that box off the cab ,measurements would be appreciated .
Regards. Kirk

Will do when I get a chance.

[super dave]

Well today was another great day in locating parts for the project, I got the 2 front bins that go under the front of the cargo box, also 2 spare tire clam shells on a mount which I believe came off a welding truck as it has 4 mounting tabs under it. also the Battery cover which looks NOS

[pauldavies]

Be in Fort Saskatchewan in July-August 2016 love to have a look and swap stories on my Morris C8 & Austin Champs. Be a bit warmer then for us Australian guys.