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Old 15-07-21, 08:12
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Default Rod Bellars collection

I just heard that Rod Bellars in Ozz has died today 15/7/21 at age only 60. I'm not sure when he last visited this site but I know he was well known by many.

His continual working on heavy armoured vehicles and artillery pieces in shorts and flip flops, could not be conducive to healthy living.

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Old 15-07-21, 12:59
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Hello Ron,

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for letting us know, I have changed his account to reflect this sad fact.

BTW, he hadn't been active on this Forum since September 2016.
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Old 21-07-21, 02:40
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It was stage 4 GBM brain cancer. Was stage 3 when they found out about it and did one surgery to slow the growth down but prognosis was terminal from the start.

His wife Amy who lives in Singapore has Lloyds out of Melbourne taking the collection so it will probably be awhile before you start seeing aspects of it up for sale since its five large sheds to sort and catalog. Not to mention them having to figure out what everything is.

Rod and I had been trading partners since we brought in the first container from him back in January 2000 and we received literally tons of his collection purchases in Texas to forward back every other year. You'd be amazed at the stuff we'd accumulate to export back to him.

He'll be sadly missed and was a wealth of information to those that really knew him.
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With Rod's passing, I asked Amy what her plans are. Well, looks like LLoyds Auctions have the job and already a lot of the bigger items have been moved to their premises. No idea yet as to when the auction will take place, but it will be interesting.

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Old 20-11-21, 20:40
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Looks like a lot of Trophy guns awaiting their Fate, are they in a secured lockup though? Cheers Andrew.
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Old 20-11-21, 23:39
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Looks like a lot of Trophy guns awaiting their Fate,.....
Where did that Pic com from? Have they listed an auction yet?
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Old 21-11-21, 03:43
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I presume they are at the auction House place, maybe Melbourne,....I guess the parts are staying in-tacked on the guns?, Cheers.
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And it would seem all these relics have been left out in the weather since arriving at Lloyds. And that has been several months now.
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Old 22-11-21, 15:37
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I see leather straps and muzzle caps, hemp rope, card/pulp boxes, canvas cover, rubber eyepieces, sights, firing mechanisms, bare steel.

How's the weather in Melbourne, wet?
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Old 22-11-21, 15:48
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I see leather straps and muzzle caps, hemp rope, card/pulp boxes, canvas cover, rubber eyepieces, sights, firing mechanisms, bare steel.

How's the weather in Melbourne, wet?
Been very wet the last few months with a blast of Winter conditions occurring recently. Forecast is for more heavy rain later this week.
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And guess what is happening Now! , Oh look , there is a Big on-line Auction, in 10 parts at this stage, with over a 1000 lots....lets buy! , only 30 days to go!

Hanno can probably put the link up, I never did work that one out?

Try : Loyds Auction House Melbourne....I thought our Aussie Cousins would be all over this , Staghound, Lee Tank, heaps of quality gear ,Cheers Andrew.
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Some of the item descriptions are amusing.
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Link to carrier
https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotD...2&pgn=1&pgs=15

Link to scrap metal (that shows a Staghound)
https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotD...2&pgn=5&pgs=15

Link to Staghound
https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotD...5&pgn=1&pgs=15
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Old 06-01-22, 08:51
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Link to the catalogues
https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/Auct...x?pgn=6&pgs=15

I will be interested to see what happens when the scrap metal auction and the Staghound auction finish and the photos are identical. The entire auction collection seems to have been temporarily pulled once already.
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And guess what is happening Now! , Oh look , there is a Big on-line Auction, in 10 parts at this stage, with over a 1000 lots....lets buy! , only 30 days to go!

Hanno can probably put the link up, I never did work that one out?

Try : Loyds Auction House Melbourne....I thought our Aussie Cousins would be all over this , Staghound, Lee Tank, heaps of quality gear ,Cheers Andrew.
Hi Andrew, just copy and paste the URL in your internet browser here:
https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/Auct...4&pgn=1&pgs=15
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Looks like a Pheasant: https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/LotD...6&pgn=1&pgs=15

Mock-up or original?

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Some of the item descriptions are amusing.
Appalling is a more appropriate description, methinks…

Also, going to the landing page, not all lots are shown. As far as I can see there are 1,003 in all, but “view auction lots” (https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/Auct...&pgn=1&pgs=100) only seems to show 64?
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It’s always a shame to see a fellow enthusiast’s lifetime collection broken up and sold off, but so much sadder that the auctioneers didn’t seem to even bother having many of the lots correctly identified.

Whoever is currently bidding on the scrap metal lot is in for a hell of a shock when they find out they are only getting the steel on the pallet and not the Staghound in the pics 😳

RIP Rod

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It all seems to happen like this to the best of collections eventually.
Just remember , Us overseas bidders need to apply to the DOD for a permit to export out of Australia , which is fairly straight forward , as they do not seem too concerned about saving their heritage these days. Cheers.
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Old 06-01-22, 18:41
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Amazing collection, and certainly a yardstick of Rod's enthusiasm.

I do note that so many of the lots are poorly described, with very small photos or the items still partially wrapped.


There are a few smaller items I will be bidding on, but does anybody know if Lloyds will ship out of Australia? If not, is there anyone on this site who will act as middleman on purchases for me and receive then forward the items? Unfortunately we may be bidding on some of the same things. As they say, no friends at an auction.
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Appalling is a more appropriate description, methinks…

Also, going to the landing page, not all lots are shown. As far as I can see there are 1,003 in all, but “view auction lots” (https://www.lloydsonline.com.au/Auct...&pgn=1&pgs=100) only seems to show 64?

Hanno: Go to all auctions, then look towards the bottom and there are 10 packages of auctions related to this estate. Some are over 500 items, some are less.

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Hanno,

Ref your post 16: certainly not the Australian trials 17/25-pdr, despite having an Australian-marked breech ring.

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Whoever is currently bidding on the scrap metal lot is in for a hell of a shock when they find out they are only getting the steel on the pallet and not the Staghound in the pics 😳
I see the extra pics of the Staghound are now removed and the price has been reset to $1
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Rob et al,

Some, possibly many, of the items listed will need to obtain a Movable Cultural Heritage export permit before export from Australia.

See Part 9 of the Regulations at https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2018L01710

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Anything Military needs DOD approval export permit, as from the past export experiences I have had from Aus, Cheers Andrew.
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I see the extra pics of the Staghound are now removed and the price has been reset to $1
The Staghound will need some work.
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Rob et al,

Some, possibly many, of the items listed will need to obtain a Movable Cultural Heritage export permit before export from Australia.

See Part 9 of the Regulations at https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2018L01710

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Anything Military needs DOD approval export permit, as from the past export experiences I have had from Aus, Cheers Andrew.
That's right, 2 separate Permit applications, to 2 different Government departments.

An MCH Permit under Clause 4.4(h) issued by the Minister for the Arts, and an ATAR permit from the DECO office, Dept of Defence.

But I am also surprised that the Auctioneers have not made any mention of the need for Permits and/or Licences for Australian buyers. Some high bidders might be in for a rude shock come collection time.
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Ref your post 16: certainly not the Australian trials 17/25-pdr, despite having an Australian-marked breech ring.
Thanks Mike. Other than a vague description “World War 2 artillery cannon, stamped GR Ordnance Factory Australia, 17PR I (Aust)” and a generic text about the Pheasant, there is not much to go by. I suspect it is a mock-up made from a 25-pdr mount and 17-pdr gun.
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Lot 1005, described as a Chevrolet ......... it is actually the sad remains of a Guy Quad Ant FAT.
A lot of the descriptions leave a lot to be desired.
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How about the Bren Gun 100 round drum magazine listed as a "landmine". It is obvious by the bidding on that item that the bidders have figured it out.
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