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Old 18-08-19, 16:43
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Default Morgan M32F Tracked Carrier

These machines look to date from the early 80's. What was the source of parts, and what was the story behind them? Logging? Mining?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Morgan-M32F...oAAOSwkaxbYPMw
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Old 18-08-19, 20:28
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Interesting!

Morgan Power Apparatus of Vancouver, BC, Canada (part of Morpac Industries Inc.) manufactures "Off Road Crawlers and Carriers for the Logging & Mining Industries" using Sherman tank parts - see my webpage http://www.mapleleafup.nl/g104/ploughshare.htm


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Original Morgan M32F Track Carrier Parts Manual .

Issued 1983 , 52 pages

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Old 19-08-19, 02:19
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And Stuart:

https://www.forestech.ca/product/mor...4p-tank-drill/
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Old 19-08-19, 02:23
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Interesting mixture of track on this one:

https://www.forestech.ca/product/mor...2f-tank-drill/
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Old 19-08-19, 20:22
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Actually, that is an M4 High Speed Tractor

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Old 20-08-19, 03:40
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OK, but still cheap for Detroit-powered track.
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Old 25-08-19, 00:03
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I recently acquired a pair the Morgan Power / Finning M4 Tank Drills. Currently looking for front bodywork from an artillery tractor for a resto. Any leads would be appreciated.
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Old 25-08-19, 03:08
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Here’s an M4 HST based carrier in Austin, Texas, USA

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Old 25-08-19, 03:47
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Great find! The typical Sherman based West coast logging chassis is/was under a Madil brand spar yarder made in Nanaimo on an M32 recovery vehicle. They made several models. The second most common one has been mentioned, a Finning brand rock drill. This Morgan is a new name for me, and one I will have to research.

What is intriguing is how many subcontractors and suppliers would have been in business to keep the rainforest logging operations going, and what inventory do they have left?
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Old 25-08-19, 06:09
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The Madill carriers were not made on M32 recovery vehicles, they were only designated as M32’s to avoid confusion with the M4 carrier. Most Madill machines used the so called M4A3 spar carrier, originally supplied by NAPCO, later Traxxon. It was lengthened and widened. They still retain the Armoured diff housing. The M32 carrier was only used on the small 071 yarder, but Washington Iron Works used them on a couple of swing yarders. The M4 tractor was used to make drills by G.M. Philpott and later by Finning, then they switched to the M32, then the M40, really a HVSS Sherman and nothing like an M40 at all. The M5 tractor was used as a drill carrier by Chapman Motor and Machine Shop, the “Drilmobile”. There were quite a few around. The M6 tractor was used as a spar carrier on some early Madill yarders, often with the original body and engine. There were also a lot of M26A1 tank retriever trucks used as spar carriers.
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Old 25-08-19, 14:11
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Default SECO - Southeastern Equipment Company

Southeastern Equipment Company (SECO) also converted surplus military tracked vehicles into tracked carrier for the mining and logging industry.

This included T16 Universal Carriers (see photo source), High Speed Tractors (it may be where the one now in Austin Texas came from). They also bought a batch of Sexton SPGs from Portugal, but it seems most of those were not converted and eventually sold to collectors.

Read a bit more about SECO here: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=13607

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Tracked vehicle outside forestry museum in Duncan, BC taken from Google maps. Appears to me to be military chassis but I'll leave that to those who know.
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Old 25-08-19, 19:54
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Madill “S” series spar on M6 carrier.
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Old 26-08-19, 01:59
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The Madill carriers were not made on M32 recovery vehicles, they were only designated as M32’s to avoid confusion with the M4 carrier. Most Madill machines used the so called M4A3 spar carrier, originally supplied by NAPCO, later Traxxon. It was lengthened and widened. They still retain the Armoured diff housing. The M32 carrier was only used on the small 071 yarder, but Washington Iron Works used them on a couple of swing yarders. The M4 tractor was used to make drills by G.M. Philpott and later by Finning, then they switched to the M32, then the M40, really a HVSS Sherman and nothing like an M40 at all. The M5 tractor was used as a drill carrier by Chapman Motor and Machine Shop, the “Drilmobile”. There were quite a few around. The M6 tractor was used as a spar carrier on some early Madill yarders, often with the original body and engine. There were also a lot of M26A1 tank retriever trucks used as spar carriers.
I agree with every available heavy chassis was worked into the product line, from M4 Sherman FOVs to High Speed Tractors and others. My reading has been that the M32 name was originated from M32 vehicles, not necessarily because they weren't M4s. The vertical volute suspension has been my differentiation point. The horizontal volute system would be entirely appropriate for post war Shermans.

Attached are a couple of shots of a Madill and its data plate -because we are all rivet counters at heart. Had I been smarter when this line of inquiry had my interest, I would have looked at and recorded serial numbers.
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70-08876 M38A1 ready for the road
53-71233 M100CDN trailer manufactured by MCI ready for the road

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Old 26-08-19, 02:38
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A lot of the 071’s I suspect were built on Sextons. They often came with the useless CDP tracks.
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