Modern part numbers for CMPs

[Private_collector]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Hi Tony
When the cost of a new one is similar to the resleeving in stainless steel one has to think about which in the long run is best. A brand new wheel cylinder will eventually rust and deteriorate particularly with the significant seasonal changes. On the other hand a rebuilt WC with SS lining should last a life time...... in fact the rubber boots would be the first to dry up and crack.

The life of a NEW WC would also be affected by the frequency that the vehicle is actually being driven. Putting your vehicle away for the Winter for months with no driving probably causes more damage than a whole Summer of driving.

Bob

We're a bit lucky up this part of Australia. Winter temperatures rarely get down to 0c even in mid winter. We don't really have to hibernate vehicles, unless that is because of fuel price these days. Southern states don't fare so well with temps though. A good pair of gloves and a "Dr Who" scarf would protect against the winter cold.

There is more information about my old WCs that I didn't speak about. The threads on brake line nut & bleeder screw were suspect strength from corrosion and a safety concern for me. Previous owner dismantled lots of things, then stored them in a wooden box within a leaky shipping container. The WCs and some other parts in box were more deteriorated in storage than would have been on the truck. Well I can't really say that for sure, but they certainly went down hill in storage. This is also the case for front cylinders.

[Private_collector]

Attachment 46135 Attachment 46136
These are NOS not new, but since I have found them to be correct, I thought I would post them here in case this info is of any use to anyone else.

[Keith Webb]

Does anyone have a modern part number for Ford ignition points, or a source for them in Australia? Is there a Bosch number?

[Ganmain Tony]

What about Mike Davidson in South Australia Keefy?

Did you try TCR Bayswater? Agents for Macs or Macs themselves?

[Bob Carriere]

Before I loose the number again....

Inside the CMP transmission ....... inside one of the shafts is a strange looking bearing that looks like a series 2 inch long little tubes held with plates at each end.

It looks like a squirrel cage..... anyways it is a Federal Mogul Bearing J-281248 worth about $15.00 ......... usually a stock item still used today.

Enjoy

Bob C

PSas of Feb 2019.... now worth up to $35.00 and very rare to find....

[lendlease]

Ross Prince in Queensland has points sets available....also all the transmission bearings. I just bought a set from him. rossprince@y7mail.com

[Wayne Henderson]

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?
Thanks,
Wayne.

[hrpearce]

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?
Thanks,
Wayne.

Hi Wayne, I took my old hoses to Repco and they sent them away and had new copies made.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi

Yes there is an off the shelf number here in the states, just replaced mine on the HUP and found the numbers for the various lengths will find the part number and post.

Cheers Phil

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?

Have you read the brand name and part numbers posted at the beginning of this thread by Chris?

H.

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Has anyone found a modern replacement part for the C15 front brake hoses and the rear chassis to diff hose?

Hi Wayne

As Hanno's post points to there are the Brakes Hoses front (2 req'd) Raybestos BH5931 front (1 req'd) Raybestos BH25629
rear (1 req'd) Raybestos BH31669 numbers.

But there are two hose lay outs one using 2 hoses one on each side that go directly from the chassis to each backing plate. The other system (later) is a three hose system with one hose going from the chassis to the front axle housing then steel tubing to each end then hoses from each end of the axle to the backing plate.

Reason for change brake hose damage from tire chains I believe.

Recently I replaced the hoses on my HUP using replacements from NAPA #4900
Attributes
Brake Hose End Type : Male - 7/16"-20 & Male/Female - 5/8"-18 External & 7/16"-24 Internal
Brake Hose Length : 17.5"

Rear hose NAPA # 21102
Attributes
Brake Hose End Type : Male/Female - 5/8"-18 External & 7/16"-24 Internal & Male - 7/16"-20
Brake Hose Length : 23.25"

If your local auto supply can not cross those numbers try having them look by the Attributes they should be able to find a listing for the hoses and different lengths.

Hope the numbers help.

Cheers Phil

[Wayne Henderson]

Hi Hanno, I did see the original thread but that was for a 15A and different to what I'm after for the 2WD.
Thanks Phil for the information, is your HUP 2WD?
Thanks,
Wayne.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Wayne

Now you have stumped me, I didn't make the distinction between C15 and C15A or 2x4 vs 4x4. Whose got a parts book to look up if they used different hoses.

If they used the same hose it will probably be the early number where the hose comes straight from each side of the chassis to the wheel. Do you have an old hose for an over all length? I've found the modern parts book that list the hoses by fitting end and length so I can probably give you a US number.

Cheers Phil

[Keith Webb]

Just to clarify, and this is the same on both Chevrolet and Ford, the vehicles with a driven front axle use 3 hoses - one to the axle, then one for each side, while the 4X2 versions have 2 hoses going directly from the chassis.

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Hi Wayne

Now you have stumped me, I didn't make the distinction between C15 and C15A or 2x4 vs 4x4. Whose got a parts book to look up if they used different hoses.

If they used the same hose it will probably be the early number where the hose comes straight from each side of the chassis to the wheel. Do you have an old hose for an over all length? I've found the modern parts book that list the hoses by fitting end and length so I can probably give you a US number.

Cheers Phil

[Mike K]

Anyone looking for brake hoses .

get on ebay and look up the guy in Argentina . He manufactures new hoses to original specs for any Vintage vehicle . I bought a set of CS8/PU Morris hoses and Land Rover 1950 from him .. spot on .They are SAE specs ..good quality , not junk . He has all of the original specs on hand ..he must have an amazing number of catalogues

He is a fraction of the cost of new hoses here ..even with postage

MIKE

[hrpearce]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Just to clarify, and this is the same on both Chevrolet and Ford, the vehicles with a driven front axle use 3 hoses - one to the axle, then one for each side, while the 4X2 versions have 2 hoses going directly from the chassis.

Keith your cab12 has hoses from the chassis to the front wheels.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

Just to clarify, and this is the same on both Chevrolet and Ford, the vehicles with a driven front axle use 3 hoses - one to the axle, then one for each side, while the 4X2 versions have 2 hoses going directly from the chassis.

As Robert pointed out, see F15A brake lines for the "old" and "new location" brake line setup on 4x4 CMPs. I suspect the old location setup with flexible hose from chassis to front wheel brake cylinders was copied from the 4x2 chassis.

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Wayne Henderson

Hi Hanno, I did see the original thread but that was for a 15A and different to what I'm after for the 2WD.

My apologies Wayne, I didn't realise you were after 4x2 brake lines. The rear chassis to diff hose is the same as on the 4x4 Ford and Chev, for the front brake hose you would have to find a replacement part for the original one.

Looking at my posting F15A brake lines, I note the part number *C01Q-2079, the flexible hose running from chassis to front wheel brake cylinders as per "old location", is the same for the flexible hose running from the chassis to front axle as per "new location". This is Raybestos BH25629.

HTH,
Hanno

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

First I had a close look at the maintenance manual and spare parts list:

“Old location” (fig. 1):

Rear: metal brake line (p/n 91A-2269) running from master brake cylinder (p/n 91T-2140) to rear of chassis, flexible hose (p/n *C01Q-2078) from chassis to rear axle, metal brake lines (p/n 91A-2269) run from connector (p/n 01T-2074-A) to rear wheel brake cylinders (p/n (C) 91T-2261). Note the flexible hose is fitted to chassis bracket (p/n 01T-2073) with the use of a clip (p/n 78-2814-A).

Front: metal brake lines (p/n 91A-2269) running from master brake cylinder (p/n 91T-2140) along left and right frame channels above front axle, flexible hose (p/n *C01Q-2079) from chassis to front wheel brake cylinders (p/n C91T-2261).

I suspect this setup was taken over from the 2-wheel drive F15 to the 4-wheel drive F15A, and later relocated to the setup described below as it better suits a front drive axle.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...stem_fig_1.jpg

[Grant Bowker]

A dicussion of fuel filter elements took place in the thread "New to MLU Forum", my summary of filters that should fit the CMP housing is at http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...025#post169025

[Private_collector]

The following information is correct for Ford use Bendix Vacuum boosters. Unsure if Chev are the same.

If planning to restore one of these boosters, you will likely need (or want) to replace the seals within the vacuum chamber. These seals are on the large plunger plate.

A company called Seal Jet, in Brisbane, Australia, can supply replacement seals for the above application. I have bought these myself and they are correct fit. Details as follows:

Cup 6 & 3/4" No3 $52.50
Felt Ring 5 & 5/16" x 6 &9/16" x 5/16" $30.00

You will need one of each to complete the set. Prices are correct at time of writing. GST of 10% will apply in Australia, unsure about O/S.

Contact Details for manufacturer:

Seal-Jet
Building 1, 350 Lytton Road
Morningside, QLD, 4170
Ph (07) 3899 3266
Fax (07) 3899 3277
Email

Happy Hunting

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Francesco

Jeff Caldwell's list of modern seal replacements is a very good starting point. However it is not 100% correct; if you've got the original seals you can go to the Chicago Rawhide web site, put your measurements in and you end up with all the seals available (single lip, double lip, different materials and so on)
http://www2.chicago-rawhide.com/part...up_457010.htm#
Click on "Parts loookup database" and a new window opens where you can choose seals by part number or shaft dimension

Go to http://www2.chicago-rawhide.com/ for the correct site and select "Seals North America Part Lookup" or "Seals North America Interchange".

HTH,
H.

[Harry Moon]

Freshening up my transfer case and I am replacing the seals.
It is the best advice to replace the original seal 50300 with two CR19360?

[Lar Dowding]

Would anyone have a modern part number for the output shaft oil seal (item 16) on ford gearbox
Ttfn

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Lar Dowding

Would anyone have a modern part number for the output shaft oil seal (item 16) on ford gearbox
Ttfn

Listed on the first couple of posts in this thread.

Seal is CR21211, should be available in the UK from any SKF or Chicago Rawhide stockist.

https://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p3...duct_info.html

[Lar Dowding]

Must get me some glasses, thanks tony.

[werner wernersen]

Hello from Norway

I am in currently starting a little winter project, before starting dismantling of my C60L.

I will try to make searchable list in Excel of the Army part catalog 1940-41 for Chevrolet to make it easier to find out what part I need to replace or are missing.

I hope some of you are interested in the list and are willing to help with the new part number section, I have made a little PDf as a suggestion for how I think it should look like, please give me some feedback on this.

Werner

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by werner wernersen

I will try to make searchable list in Excel of the Army part catalog 1940-41 for Chevrolet to make it easier to find out what part I need to replace or are missing.

I hope some of you are interested in the list and are willing to help with the new part number section, I have made a little PDf as a suggestion for how I think it should look like, please give me some feedback on this.

Hi

Was just looking at your test data base, are you scanning the parts book an running it through a character recognising program? My parts book has one more column headed "PROPRIETARY OR M.T. NUMBER " some of the numbers list cross over to commercial parts of the day. So including that column might be of use.

Cheers Phil

[werner wernersen]

Hello Phil

As of today, I am doing it manually, because my copy don't give me good recognition of text, I hope further out in the book I can do a scan.

in my PDF there is a Colum with new part and a Colum with web address I hope to add. the line you refer to isn't in my book.

Werner

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Werner

Just getting the parts list in a form that can be computer search will be useful. May also get interesting to see which part numbers repeat. Example same parts used in front and rear axle.

Cheers Phil

[werner wernersen]

Hello Phil

I will do my best, it takes time only, but I think by putting it as a spread sheet (Excel), there is a lots of possibilities.

Werner