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20-02-08, 18:39
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The Engineer Forum
Jefe, I've been mulling this over for a while so I thought I'd ask. Have you considered an Engineer Forum? When you consider all the threads regarding bulldozers, tractors, cranes, bridging, rafting, and planking I think it would be viable. Most of the kit I've mentioned is neither fish nor fowl, meaning it doesn't fit within the Softskin, Armour, or Gun park forums so a separate and distinct forum makes sense. Your thoughts?
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20-02-08, 19:06
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 Just a thought about having The Engineer Forum; not all great ideas are immediately recognized as such. (remember the K-Tel Patty Stacker?) You will relent though once the tidal wave of support from the MLU community crashes your server with un-ending posts decrying your denial of what could be MLU's finest hour! Remember! Never had so much been built by so few with so little so so many could access so much to do their little bit, which was part of the big effort in their little part of the battle for want of a nail, a plank was lost, for want of a plank, a bridge was lost, for want of a bridge, a beer shipment was late which we band, we band of besotted brothers in what was not the end, nor the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning which in full voice we with the long mustaches and in a monotonous langour cried," WE SHALL RETURN the empties!" If that doesn't stir you to action Bye, nuthin' will! 
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20-02-08, 20:34
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hmmm not a bad thought from this former carpenter who loves engineering equipment like bulldozers etc.
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20-02-08, 20:52
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Kersplash! Jefe.
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20-02-08, 22:04
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If youcan do it go for it jif one suggestion would be to include from early days to the current time or we will darting backwards and forwards all day an night. Plenty of material from here available
cheers Les
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22-02-08, 04:53
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How many books of reference did you plow through to string together the above rambling dissertation? Speaking of Engineers...do you recollect Ed Storey, a fairly frequent lurker in this and other military forums? How about Roy Bowers? Chimo!
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22-02-08, 11:52
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Tony -- Can be done, my lad!  
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Plagarism? Isn't that a big word like marmalade?  I would never plagarize my posts, in my request for an Engineer Forum I wasn't asking what MLU can do for me, I was asking what I can do for MLU.  As for my dissertation, we all know the importance of remembering history as those who fail to remember the past are doomed to be forgetful! CHIMO! 
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22-02-08, 23:20
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Derek, let me get my thoughts in order this weekend (I've been a busy boy of late) and I'll give you an answer on your base proposal.
Jif
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28-02-08, 04:27
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Perhaps a little taste of whats to come.
OK all my Engineer loving friends, here's some of what you can expect should the exalted one bestow an Engineer Forum upon us. (Have I told you what a great, great guy you are lately, Jefe?)
Tonight's episode: Expedient Surfaces: A subject dear to any Engineer's heart and critically important to the war effort: how to allow heavy vehicles and aircraft to traverse or land on soil, sand, or mud that would otherwise be excluded from operational use. We didn't always have the choice of where we were to engage the enemy and the need for close air support and air superiority necessitated the building of air strips close on the heels of the advance. There was no time for building elaborate concrete runways, taxiways, and ramps. The British system of "Chevron" planking was stout but tended to tear up the tyres of landing aircraft. American PSP (Perforated Steel Planking) and the lighter PAP (Perforated Aluminum Planking) proved an ideal surface, though it was heavy and required sufficient logistics for timely delivery and relatively large crews to install. A simpler, quicker system of expedient surface for runways was needed. This need was amply met by PBS (Prefabricated Bituminous Surfaces). PBS was invented in Canada, improved by the Brits, and perfected by the Americans at the U.S. Army Waterways Experiment Station (WES) in Vicksburg Mississippi. PBS consisted simply of cloth impregnated and coated with bitumen. Army duck, Osnaburg (Muslin), burlap, and Hessian cloth were used as fabrics, and asphalt as the bituminous coating. When used by American construction engineers, the Army distributed PBS in rolls approximately 3 feet wide and 300 feet long, the average roll weighing 350 pounds. A coat of mica powder on its top surface prevented adhesion during transportation and storage. As a flexible surface, PBS had the unusual advantages of being waterproof, dustproof, and inexpensive, and it could be laid rapidly by a machine called a "stamp-licker," which applied a solvent (usually diesel fuel) to the underside of the strip as it was unwound. The strips were half-lapped, which resulted in a more watertight surface. PBS also proved to be exceptionally easy to repair as two men with some of the cloth and a bucket of tar could quickly repair any small holes. Site preparation involved clearing the area of any vegetation after the Engineers removed any mines and unexploded ordnance. After leveling, the ground was compacted and a "Penetrometer" was used to test for sufficient compaction. I've uploaded four pictures, one shows the PBS being pre-staged, another the "Stamp licker" laying the PBS, thirdly; PBS and PSP in a side-by-side test, and lastly; aircraft tires mounted on equipment to test the both the durability of the surface and wear on aircraft tires. CHIMO! Derek. (P.S. next episode, self-powered towed sand shite spreaders!)
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28-02-08, 23:07
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Construction Engineers..Air Force...
Our own little niche on MLU..
How neat... That covers all the plumbers,carpenters,refrigeration mechanics,WSPOL Techs,electricians and power plant and steam plant guys guys.. All of which came under my chosen field as a Mechanical Systems Tech(Warrant Officers and WO 2 ,WO1's)..back when I was a young 'un.. As fine a bunch of lads that ever picked up a plunger.. Is this the place we come to tell all our exploits from our past glory days..?? Thanks..Sapper and Thanks Jif.   
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28-02-08, 23:12
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 BTW, the only plunger you lads ever picked up was the one you needed to unclog the loo from your.... oh, never mind.
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I didn't know you cared.. Yes..I'm back from the sunny south.. 68-85 F the whole 10 days I was in Georgia...Why it is 20 below zero here this morning has to be Jif's doing..I didn't cause it..it was here when I got back... I was having MLU attacks.. I went daily to the public library for internet access..I chose not to take one of the two lap tops my daughter offered..but soon found out that the library did not allow access to MLU because... Forbidden, this page is categorized as Forum/Bulletin Boards. Forbidden, this page is categorized as Weapons. .. So I complained but couldn't sway them. anyway...here is a true "Engineering tale".. Back in '75 when we closed Moosonee Radar base,I was a newly appointed warrant officer of the Refrigeration mechanical section ,responsible for the care and maintenance of the long range radar mechanical systems.. The last day was March 31/'75... It was the Canadian crews responsibility to disassemble and lower all the radar antennae and arrays and lower them to the grown where the US Air Force crew packaged the equipment into special crates for shipping... This process took about a week and the removal of the radomes and packing and shipping and clean up took the better part of a month.. With the Messes bouncing every night and the consumption of spirits in all forms at an all time record high,which is saying something for an isolated Radar base,one incidence certainly stood out above all others to impress our American colleagues.. My very good buddy ,and "winger" was a plumber ,about my age and a Sgt at the time.. He was a huge guy about 6'3'' and 250 pounds and all muscle,not unkindly to say ,some may have been between his ears,at times ,especially when soaked in the demon rum...which we(He) consumed with great abandon..anyway it was a cold and stormy night and we were well on our way when our plumbing buddy got called out to a plugged toilet ..from the mess where we were having fun with the US guys ..and trying to trade gear like their parkas,which by April most of us were out of but this crew was from Alabama and April in Moosonee is not like it is in Alabama and they wore their parkas even in the heat ot the day which was probably 15-17C...a shirt sleeve day for us.. Anyway about an hour later our buddy comes back to the mess ,having completed his duty of unplugging his toilet and still wearing his coveralls with his little short plunger stuck in his leg pocket ,much like a gun slinger would wear his six gun,our hero strides up to the bar and we don't pay too much attention until we hear a hugh crash!!!!..WE ALL TURN TO LOOK AND HERE IS OUR HERO ,HAVING DRAWN HIS TRUSTY PLUNGER, BROUGHT THE BUTT END DOWN WITH FORCE ON THE BAR ,getting the bar tenders and every one elses undivided attention.. "FILL'ER UP WITH RUM!!!!"..says he as he indicated the upturned cup of his trusty plunger.. which the bartender did and our buddy took a big swig and came over to where where we were were sitting ...He began to offer a drink to all of us from his loving cup ,and we Canadians ,having seen this performance from our hero before would pass with..."I don't drink rum at the best of times..or some such nonsense..but our US friends were aghast and some physically sick at the sight ..and the idea of being offered to drink from a plunger..?? Our friend thought nothing of it..and is still alive as far as I know.. As for our American friends..I'm sure some of those young lads don't drink to this day..and quite sure that we Canadians are all insane and live in the bush.. And drink rum out of plungers...well some of us do... What's strange about that..??
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Tales from the Mess
Great story Alex, thoroughly loved how it brought back many good memories of nights spent in the mess. And not-so-good memories of mornings after especially when we were duty Engineer! Americans to this day are still amazed at Canadians' ability to quaff mass quantities of beer and spirits. Derek.
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal... that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Engineering"
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I think you are right Jif, engineers are full of sh1t!
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RCE - Rough Canadian Engineering RCEME - Rough Canadian Engineering Made Easy (insert national identifier as applic) Cheers, Bill
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Well said Bill. Much of our training was implementation of expedient installations under austere conditions. Our annual Level II training at Cold Lake was to simulate and practice BRATT techniques (Base Repair after ATTack) and they were at times, rough. Chimo! Derek.
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Engineer's Corner
Gentlemen, it's obvious many of you are connoisseurs and inclined towards the higher aspirations of human endeavour, namely, the arts, Shakespeare, and all things Engineering. Well, my fellow cognoscente, I propose that until such time as a more fitting venue for our intellectual pursuit, we inhabit TAC HQ. A, shall we say, Engineer's Corner, a place for the quiet and dignified study of our vocation where we will be above the din of the baser pursuits. What say you all?
CHIMO! Derek.
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