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Shepards Crook clamp dimensions
Hi all, I want to make a crook clamp and have attached a drawing, I need to clarify if all the dimensions are correct, Nigel Ward has kindly supplied dimensions which i have interpreted into this drawing, he's away at the moment and i would like a second pair of eyes to check it over.......can any one offer any comments please?. Many Thanks.
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Kevin
It looks pretty good.
The 1/2 " dimension (top right) is actually the head of a 3/8" dia BSF countersunk screw, so it requires a 3/8" clearance hole, that is then countersunk. The stud is also 3/8" BSF threaded, with a wing nut. From memory, the other end of the stud protrudes from the other side of the steel block, and is also threaded to take a 3/8" nut. Does any of that help? I think there is a 3/4 dia. collar integral with the stud, at a guess, 3/8' thick. Does that work?
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... Last edited by Lynn Eades; 19-09-08 at 11:51. |
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hi, thanks for the reply, everthing you have said is spot on but i think the coller is 7/8 inch as aposed to 3/4?????, the two holes in the front plate of the carrier were the block bolts to are a different size on my carrier, looking from the front the left one will take a 3/8 bolt but the right one appears to small, was this tapped out to take a 3/8 counter sunk set screw with a locking bolt on the inside of the carrier????
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Kevin
I cant remember. Someone must know.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Does anyone know the part # for this clamp. I can't seem to find it in the parts listings.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Jordan,
The part # is CTL 7176, it is located on in the tool section of FUC 03 on page 374. Colin |
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Much appreciated as Im making one of these. I looked all over for that # in the book and couldn't find it.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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hi jordan, I made one to the drawing dimensions in the first post, one thing to note is that when you put it to use to clamp your crook, you need a fairly think thackery type spring washer between the wingnut and the bracket because when you tighten down the wings of the nut will foul on the bracket, i came apon an old style wingnut which was correct. I will try and dig out some photo's of an original bracket.
kevin.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Much appreciated Kevin. I was thinking that a headlamp spring may work.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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Close ups
Some pics to compare. Hope these help someone.
Cheers, Harris |
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Would the wing nut be the same size as the wing nuts on the "Bren Gun" tripod holders on a mk1 carrier? 2 heavy springs are with these mounts, a Valve spring would work. Jim
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I think the wingnut was a 3/8dia BSF one. It should be the same that was on the pick axe head bracket or the battery hold down bracket rods.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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New Photo
Folks, I had this pic sent to me not that long ago. I cannot confirm it is original.
Enjoy, Harris |
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Clamp, Shepherds Crook to Glacis Plate
Does anyone have the capability to get these measurements?
I have to make this clamp. I can do it easy enough from photos but I need a few measurements in order to set the photo's scale properly. Once I do that the rest is easy. Thanks in advance gents! |
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Link to thread
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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Maybe I missed it, but I don't see the opening width dimension in Kevin's drawing, so mine measures 34mm (yes it is original)
Skip, make the stud longer than the photo.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Skip your guesses are correct. All BSF of course.
A= 34mm. B= 3/8". Stud protrudes 7/8" (mine goes on side armour) If you make the collar as high as the lowest point of the sides (make sense?) you will be pretty close.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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on the Ford Canada block, clamping, TL 12851 to fit the glacis plate, the one I measured had a lower portion of the 3/8 “ dia stud extends 5/8” below the block, the upper is 2” above the block. You will not find this part number in the Ford Canada parts books. . Note the second bolt size: on the Canadian production, 1/4” x 7/8”. Having had the opportunity to learn about the difference with the brackets from the original Bren carrier, there are slight differences in bolt lengths and size, ie 5/16” vs 1/4”. Thank you Lynn. Hanno: thank you for maintaining this site, and merging these threads. ���� . Last edited by Michael R.; 01-07-23 at 00:29. |
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I actually haven’t started making this part yet except for laying it out electronically using Adobe Illustrator. I can then print on manilla paper and make a pattern. As all of you know, measurements are crucial to getting it right so thank you all for your time and your generosity!
All of the above measurements will be utilized! If I have questions I will speak up! |
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