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Old 15-08-15, 16:33
Yohay Shinar Yohay Shinar is offline
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Default CMPs in Israel

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for the entry ticket to this group.

I would like to share with you some pictures and info re CMPs in Israel.

As the British Mandate neared its end, in early 1948, the army was quick to dispose of many (my estimate -a few hundred) CMPs of all sorts. These were to form a major pillar in the young and poor country's transportation arena over the next decade.

A few examples - the first picture (upper left) was taken in the Northern city of Haifa, presumably in 1947. It still bears the military insignia, which I cannot decipher.

And then, one year later, we have the same body (same car? who knows) re-surfacing as an Israel Police vehicle:

The army had all sorts of CMPs:
#10265 is mobile canteen, as is #2645 (on a late model), while #28040 and #28071 may be artillery tractors. This last picture was taken in 1952, as the vehicles went for an overhaul at the "Magen Chatwood" plant in Petah Tikva.

More pictures on the following post -
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CMP Chevrolet Haifa.jpg   371 Chevy CMP Jer 1948.jpg   10265 CMP 1940-41.jpg   2645 CMP 2014-08-13 15.21.22.jpg   28040 Ford 52 overlooking 3 plus CMPs.jpg  

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Old 15-08-15, 16:43
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Default Israeli CMPs - some more

Here's a disposal list notice from March 1948. Some CMPs are included as well.

Then, three civilian CMPs:
- a fire brigade water tanker (the picture dates from 1958-59),
- a recovery vehicle
- a box van that was used by Osem, a local pasta producer (the picture was taken before 1957).

Last but not least is a poor-quality picture I took in 2009.
Here's what the ID plate said:

Model 4x8443
Chassis# 4-8443-07326
Engine# PR4018717
Contract SM-2921
Date 11-6-1945 IND

As far as I can tell, this is a Chevrolet C60L, Holmes breakdown wrecker, assembled in India.
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CMP Disposal 48-03-12.jpg   97-044 Ford CMP 1941.JPG   12000TA CMP Ford Osem.jpg   img256.jpg  
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Old 15-08-15, 17:52
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Hi Yohay:

Here are two more that may be new to your collection.
One has been converted to LHD!!

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Old 15-08-15, 18:11
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Thanks! Here's a close-up at this ambulance, a 1949 picture taken in Abu Ghosh (on the way to Jerusalem).
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Old 16-08-15, 02:19
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What have they used for a front axle under the ambulance? I have never seen a 2 wheel drive blitz before.
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Old 16-08-15, 03:17
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Rick that is a F602L, a factory built 4x2 chassis.

Yohay, thank you very much for sharing this interesting aspect of CMP use and disposal!
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Old 16-08-15, 03:25
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Rick that is a F602L, a factory built 4x2 chassis.

Yohay, thank you very much for sharing this interesting aspect of CMP use and disposal!
Keith are u joking? I have never heard of a 2 wheel drive LWB one either.

when were they made and how many were made?
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Old 16-08-15, 03:41
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There were 4X2 versions of both the long and medium wheelbase versions according to the CMP 'bible' by Bart Vanderveen. Don't know about numbers produced though.
You should have a copy of this book in your reference library!
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Old 16-08-15, 04:41
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It looks as if the 4wd hub and axle ends are still used but with a straight tube.
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Old 16-08-15, 07:05
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There were 4X2 versions of both the long and medium wheelbase versions according to the CMP 'bible' by Bart Vanderveen. Don't know about numbers produced though.
You should have a copy of this book in your reference library!
I have but can't remember ever seeing this one
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