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Old 01-12-21, 12:24
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More parts can found here.
Also Chevroler used then?
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Old 01-12-21, 12:39
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Thanks for sharing this info Mariano!

(And yes, Id like to have a set of them )
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Old 01-12-21, 12:41
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Hanno, the seller sell the complete box, but impposible to send outside my country...
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Old 01-12-21, 13:01
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Hanno, the seller sell the complete box, but impposible to send outside my country...
I know.... Thanks for sharing the info so we know this sort of stuff exists somewhere!
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Old 01-12-21, 15:32
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Hanno your truck starting handle will be in the tool box behind the cab , these clips are for special versions.
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Old 01-12-21, 16:16
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Also used on the Universal Carrier Mk.II/III
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Old 01-12-21, 21:24
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The label in Box and size.... too big for crank handle?
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Old 01-12-21, 21:52
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It is a carrier clip based on the CTL part number. Unfortunately my carrier parts manual is at work and I don't relate to cm very well. My guess is it is for stowage of the AA stem (pogo stick) on top of the engine cover, but someone with the manual will be able to correct me in short order.
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Old 01-12-21, 22:51
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Without looking, it is one of the clips for the Jacking bar (small end?) in the Universal Carrier ( of various marks and models) I too would buy some of them.
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Old 02-12-21, 01:37
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CTL3869 is listed as "Clip -, jacking bar small" in the Housing Stores section of the Mk 1* parts list.
It is also listed as "Clip and all attaching hardware" in the section on parts to be deleted from the standard carrier for conversion to a tank hunting carrier.
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Old 02-12-21, 02:04
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I've found one of the hardest thing to replicate for restorations is spring clips like this. Originals are great but if they've been left outside they probably don't have much spring left in them. New spring steel is available but bending it into shape often results in breakage at sharp angles. I've had some success with strapping bands which are usually easy to get.
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Old 02-12-21, 02:14
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Thanks Boys for your replies

About the jacking bar, i found these post

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...8&postcount=23

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...3&postcount=24

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...d.php?p=267833

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Old 02-12-21, 02:41
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Picture found on UC FB Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/218260205033615
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Old 02-12-21, 08:10
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Mariano, you first image shows the jacking bar in a Mortar carrier. This appears to only use one clip. In other carriers there is a clip holding the small end. That is where your clip is used.
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Old 02-12-21, 10:10
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This clip is used on all Mk.I's, part number (C)TL3869 Clip, jacking bar, small.
Nice find.
There are three clips of similar shape, but different size - parts 12, 22, 23.
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Old 02-12-21, 15:09
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Hello Mariano.

Did Argentina receive, or use, any models of Universal Carriers, during or after World War 2?

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Old 02-12-21, 15:31
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Hi David!

Never arriving UC , may be a few but today no surviving.
Only arriving T16E2.
But there is large quantity of spares for vehicles buying to Canada in 1947 , including fuel lines for Ford Linx and this Clips , at least that's what I've been discovering by looking at their labels and part numbers.
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Old 02-12-21, 15:52
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Thanks, Mariano.

Sounds like Argentina got a really good deal one day on a Ford Warehouse Clearance Sale.


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Old 03-12-21, 00:10
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Mariano, can you explain why they cannot be exported?
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Old 03-12-21, 01:00
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Hi Lynn
When you send by mail, more than one same piece, here the authorities consider it to be a commercial sale and start a series of paperwork and customs costs, which are so high that I don't think the buyer wants to add them to the cost of the pieces.
Our state mail is not a guarantee of good practice.
Maybe a Courier like DHL would be an option, but the costs are high.
Sellers here usually look for prices on Ebay for a reference, and they tend to triple that cost locally, therefore it would be a very high price for you.
Currently we cannot use our Paypal accounts to collect or pay for purchases, so that makes it difficult for you sellers to pay a seller from Argentina.
Sad news , sorry.
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Old 03-12-21, 14:10
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G Day Boys!

These clips are not mine, a seller has them here in Argentina.
I can get them sent to Miami USA (a shipping cost that I do not have yet since it would be a person who travels who takes them) and that they are sold by Ebay. What would be the price they would be willing to pay for each clip?
I don't pretend to win anything, just try not to end up in the junk.

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PD:Hanno, if you want, do you want to move this topic to the Carrie section?
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PD:Hanno, if you want, do you want to move this topic to the Carrie section?
Done, Mariano
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I couldnt miss buying one of these boxes before they got lost in some foundry.
The olive drab is beautiful.
Lynn Eades i send you an email.
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Mariano, I have replied. Please note that I am only interested in the ones, part number CTL 3869 as shown in the photos of post #7, of this thread.
For everyone else, I am working with Mariano to see if I can buy the box full and to see just what the price might be to N.Z. It may prove to be way too expensive. We shall see.
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Hi Lynn, these clips are the same you can see in post #7.
I will read your email...
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Default In reply to Lynn and answer my own question.....

I will make it a personal quest to contact/visit the Argentina Embassy here in Ottawa....must be some Business attache or Import/Export specialist that can provide me some answers.

Can't do anything about some one using EBay prices to gouge international buyers but at some point if it is sold by the ton for pennies for scrap their must be some solution.

From my experience, when selling on Ebay across the border from Canada, the USA Custom agent seemed primarily concerned with "How old is it?" and "Was it originally made in the USA"...... I was selling M 37 parts and mailing from within the USA by UPS. No Charge.

I would hope that similarly, Canadian made GM parts from Oshawa and Windsor, returning to Canada would be exempt when properly documented...... they were quite happy to get them in the first place and cheap in exchange for the good meat/beef sent in trade exchange when the Dutch were starving......or so the story goes!!!!

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Old 17-01-22, 01:13
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Hi Bob
I hope I can find out something, but we are a country where the ambassadors are politicians with no interest in protecting or trading correctly as everyone else does, but to see what slice of money they can get for their personal fortune. We are governed by bureaucratic politicians, corrupt and millionaires like Cuba or Venezuela to give an example. It is very sad what I write but it is the reality. It must be difficult for you to understand what I say.

The tons of spare parts from the second world war that were sold to the foundry, was basically due to the impossibility of exporting them....
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........ sorry to hear. I do not want this thread to become a political arena and we should be careful of what criticism we post. We all have to live within the laws of our countries.

I will try from my end and I DO expect some resistance, I was a government employee for over 52 years with some years at the Canadian Industry, Trade and Commerce..............and now fully retired............but I just have to give it a try.

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I agree with Bob that this is not the place to debate our problems with our various governments. I am curious though about the restrictions on exports from Argentina.

Is the problem to do with military origin or that the items are classed as antiquities ? Or just plain bureaucracy ? I know of someone who exported a number of British manufactured steam engines from Argentina to the UK about 15 years ago with relatively little difficulty and they would certainly have been a problem to export from Australia (amongst other countries) because of their age.

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I apologize for talking about political issues, but it is the only way I found for you to know that sending cmp parts abroad is a very difficult, expensive and sometimes impossible task.

Bob I hope I can find out something about this.

David Mainly the problem is bureaucratic Customs has a lot of paperwork and taxes and is corrupt. Sometimes we have more liberal governments, but the current one is not.

If anyone knows of a friend who travels to Argentina and wants to take advantage of their return to bring them something, it would be the easiest thing to do.
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