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Old 16-04-17, 16:50
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I have one f15 4x2 but no contract id number plates.

And i have a chev C15 4x2 with id plates with contract number starting with SM ????.
Matching number vehicle id plates engine and doar number still on.
Build on british contract number.

There are 2 more chev C15 4x2 on my yard without id plates and i have one in bits and peaces with out id plates as wel.

Do you have id plates with contract numbers?

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Old 16-04-17, 20:54
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Ours also has a British contract number.

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Old 17-04-17, 07:40
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HI all; the British/ commonwealth units in Egypt had 4X2's of '39 and '40 mfg. Civilian cabs with wide tyres. These trucks are pictured in Ford Trucks publication of the Early V8 Ford Club. Newc
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Old 17-04-17, 08:45
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I do agree that 4 x 2 were used but did the Canadian army use Cab 13 4x2 's ??

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Old 17-04-17, 11:47
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I do agree that 4 x 2 were used but did the Canadian army use Cab 13 4x2 's ??
That question is the very subject of this thread. We need to collect information from data plates, period photos and production orders to find the answer. I know one of the vehicles used to liberate my home town was a Cab 13 4x2 15-cwt truck. But that in itself is not enough proof. Let's keep searching!
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Old 07-05-17, 00:07
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F15 in Alkmaar 1945. However...is it British or Canadian? The second picture of the Jeep and Fordson were taken on the same day and on the same location. Fordson and jeep are clearly marked Canadian.....so F15 as well???
Here's another picture of another F15, taken at Amsterdam, 8 May 1945, when Canadian units were entering the town to liberate it.

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Photographic proof, not in abundance, but clearly Canadian units used 4x2 CMP trucks....
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Old 01-02-18, 00:34
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On p. 246 of Les Freaty's British Military Trucks of WW2 I found this interesting picture of a Ford CMP F15 4x2 truck fitted with a British-built cargo body.

My hypothesis is that these trucks were originally assembled as Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, AA, Mk II, more often referred to as a 15-cwt Polsten AA truck (or similar).
When due to Allied air superiority this type of AA truck was not needed anymore, they were re-bodied with GS type bodies commonly found on British 15-cwt trucks.
In the background, here's another 15-cwt 4x2 truck with British GS body, picture was taken somewhere in Normandy on 13 August 1944.

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Here's another Ford F15 4x2 GS truck, pictured on the road from Wassenaar to The Hague on 8 May 1945.

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Old 24-08-18, 17:19
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Another 4x2 CMP in Europe, via Keith Webb: "Spitfire pilots of 111 Sqn RAF in France, 1944 with a Ford 15CWT in the background."

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Old 24-08-18, 21:21
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The RAF and RAAF squadrons in the Desert Air Force used F15s in some numbers.

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Another 4x2 CMP in Europe, via Keith Webb: "Spitfire pilots of 111 Sqn RAF in France, 1944 with a Ford 15CWT in the background."

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Old 24-08-18, 22:06
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The RAF and RAAF squadrons in the Desert Air Force used F15s in some numbers.
They sure did, but the challenge here is to find 4x2 CMPs in use in Europe during 1944/1945. That’s why I posted your photo here - thanks!
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Old 25-08-18, 00:23
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They sure did, but the challenge here is to find 4x2 CMPs in use in Europe during 1944/1945. That’s why I posted your photo here - thanks!
They also moved into Europe and took their vehicles with them.

Here's a 92 Squadron RAF Ford F15 in some difficulties in Sicily after being transported from Egypt.
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Old 25-08-18, 13:01
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Uh oh, did the distributor got wet?!? Now the fly-boys have to get their feet wet....

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They also moved into Europe and took their vehicles with them.

Here's a 92 Squadron RAF Ford F15 in some difficulties in Sicily after being transported from Egypt.
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Old 23-10-18, 13:08
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Here's an F15 4x2 in Antwerp. Although it was captured on film by a Canadian unit, it could of course also be a British truck. At least this could help to get the discussion on this subject going. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb8KUb3UuE&t=323s

I was looking at the same footage yesterday. The white bar on top of the AoS indicates corps troops. "54" Transport company. Maybe British XXX Corps???

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Old 28-11-18, 21:01
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I was looking at the same footage yesterday. The white bar on top of the AoS indicates corps troops. "54" Transport company. Maybe British XXX Corps???
It may well be!

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Old 28-11-18, 21:18
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Here's a 4x2 15-cwt CMP in action in the province of Drenthe, the Netherlands.

According to the caption these are vehicles of the Belgian 5th SAS Regiment. In that case, the picture must have been taken during Operation Larkswood (read more here: https://www.saak.nl/battlefield%20to...herst%20en.htm).

The Belgian SAS were supporting 2nd Canadian Corps during that Operation. As far as I know the SAS did not have 15-cwt trucks, so possibly it belonged to a unit from 2nd Canadian Corps.

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Caption: A motorized column of the Belgian SAS Para Regiment operating in the north of the Netherlands, equipped with Jeeps equipped with air target machine guns.
Place: Oosterhesselen, Drenthe, the Netherlands

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Old 28-11-18, 21:59
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That would make an interesting ‘Then and Now” photo set, Hanno, if the location could be traced.

There are probably not many roads in that area with a rail line crossing it at such a sharp angle, followed almost immediately by a spur line that seems to head off parallel to the road.

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Old 22-12-18, 23:53
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On p. 246 of Les Freaty's British Military Trucks of WW2 I found this interesting picture of a Ford CMP F15 4x2 truck fitted with a British-built cargo body.

My hypothesis is that these trucks were originally assembled as Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, AA, Mk II, more often referred to as a 15-cwt Polsten AA truck (or similar).
When due to Allied air superiority this type of AA truck was not needed anymore, they were re-bodied with GS type bodies commonly found on British 15-cwt trucks.
Here’s a screenshot of one of these trucks. Odon Valley, Normandy, France, 21 June 1944.

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Traffic from formations deployed with 12th Corps in the Odon valley encounters difficult road conditions after the great storm of July 20th 1944.
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Lorries, trucks, jeeps and motorcycle despatch riders belonging primarily to 43rd (Wessex) Division and 3rd Army Group Royal Artillery units are seen making their way along a badly- rutted road (outside the village of Marcelet) that has become a sea of liquid mud; among the numerous types of vehicle seen here are an Albion six-wheeled 3-ton lorry from an unspecified 43rd (Wessex) Division unit, two CMP 3-ton lorries from 504th and 505th Companies RASC respectively, two Dodge tipper lorries from a 2nd Army RASC unit, a Scammell heavy breakdown tractor ("Liberator") from 107th RAC's REME echelon, a CMP water truck from 179th Field Regiment RA, a Bedford MW truck from 13th Medium Regiment RA (which gets stuck in a pothole and has to be towed free), two Fordson WOT6 lorries (with 'A' squadron markings) carrying explosives for an unspecified 79th Armoured Division unit and a Humber heavy utility staff car.
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Old 28-03-19, 09:30
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Canadian troops on the Market Square, Middelburg, The Netherlands, 1945. Note the Terrapins, DUKW and CMP 4x2 truck.

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Great photo Hanno.
I have never seen a photo of Terrapins in action and there are four in that picture !
Kevin Wheatcroft used to have one (no idea if he still has it) and that is the only one I have ever seen.

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Old 28-03-19, 16:59
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Hello David,

Reportedly Terrapins were used extensively during the Battle for the Scheldt. While M29C Weasels proved to be worthless, the bigger amphibians like LVT, DUKW and Terrapin proved to be decisive for the operations.

Here's another picture taken in Middelburg during November 1944. You can find more here: https://digitaal.dezb.nl/beeldbank/s...field=terrapin

Not sure Mr. Wheatcroft still has the Terrapin, I read he is currently having ten(!) Sherman tanks restored. Hopefully he will (also) spend his resources on a really rare vehicles like the Terrapin ;-)

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On p. 246 of Les Freaty's British Military Trucks of WW2 I found this interesting picture of a Ford CMP F15 4x2 truck fitted with a British-built cargo body.

My hypothesis is that these trucks were originally assembled as Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, AA, Mk II, more often referred to as a 15-cwt Polsten AA truck (or similar).
When due to Allied air superiority this type of AA truck was not needed anymore, they were re-bodied with GS type bodies commonly found on British 15-cwt trucks.
And here are a couple more, maybe even three.

Two Ford F15 4x2 trucks passing Sherman Crab flail tanks. Note they are fitted with wooden cargo bodies like on most British 15-cwt trucks. The third one may have had a wooden body too, as not much is left after it burned.

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While the rest of the 7th Armoured Division is placed in reserve, units serving with the 22nd Armoured Brigade join up with the 43rd (Wessex) Division on the southern slopes of Mont Pincon.
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Two Canadian-pattern 15 cwt-trucks drive past a column of Sherman Crab flail tanks belonging to the Westminster Dragoons awaiting the call into action near Roucamps (?). The burnt-out remains of trucks, lorries and jeeps from the 1/5th Battalion Queen's Regiment which were destroyed by mines and shell-fire on August 5th 1944 litter the main road running through the village of Vallée de Hamars. Cromwell and Firefly tanks from the 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards and a lone 5th Royal Horse Artillery OP Cromwell tank churn up the dusty road from Roucamps to Le Plessis-Grimoult, where they will join up with 43rd Division's 129th Brigade.
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