MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Carrier Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 22-05-18, 14:13
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Petr,
As Richie said, they were added to stop the track rolling off the sprockets. If you look at photos of the prototype Loyds they didn't have them.

I've read a 1940 evaluation report by the Army and it mentions how easily the machine shed its track, going on to say that the Loyd company had come up with a quick fix which appeared to have alleviated the problem. Those L shaped supports are I presume, the quick fix put into production!

Although you can't see them in the photo the rear sprockets don't use nuts (although the front sprockets do!) they use a special curved tapped plate, see in the back ground below:


Again I presume this curved back plate was added in the modification to prevent shedding track, perhaps the track horns were catching on the nuts and as the rear sprockets are idlers the track could be lifted up over the sprocket teeth.
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook

Last edited by ajmac; 22-05-18 at 14:24.
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 22-05-18, 14:29
Petr Brezina Petr Brezina is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 533
Default

That's interesting, thanks! So these L shaped supports are mounted on both axles?
__________________
UCw Mk.III
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 22-05-18, 17:27
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Yes, all sprockets have them.
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 22-05-18, 20:47
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Any know of them being fitted to a UC?
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 09-08-18, 08:55
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

On all 8 wheels before the end of the year....work commitments dependant.
Attached Thumbnails
5A87367A-19FB-45B9-9497-0D6EBBCA4CD0.jpeg   31220692-E1E3-4B98-A45A-73F5C3BDA604.jpeg  
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 10-08-18, 22:06
Andrew Rowe Andrew Rowe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Manawatu , New Zealand
Posts: 544
Default Wheele Good!

Not being too much of an "expert'..., but should those wheels be around the other way!. The reason being you have put the castle nuts for the bogie pins to the outside which is correct, but also the grease nipples should be to the outside, and the flats of the spokes should be to the outside?....... or have I got my own Loyd on backwards? , or should I leave this comment until you have all 8 on and then you have heaps more wheels to change over! Cheers Andrew.
__________________
Valentine MkV
Covenanter MkIV
Lynx MKI and MKII
Loyd Carrier / English / Candian / LP.
M3 Stuart
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 10-08-18, 23:06
kevin powles's Avatar
kevin powles kevin powles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,955
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Rowe View Post
Not being too much of an "expert'..., but should those wheels be around the other way!. The reason being you have put the castle nuts for the bogie pins to the outside which is correct, but also the grease nipples should be to the outside, and the flats of the spokes should be to the outside?....... or have I got my own Loyd on backwards? , or should I leave this comment until you have all 8 on and then you have heaps more wheels to change over! Cheers Andrew.
Andrew, he’s fitted the wheels to make the challenge of fitting the suspension unit on the loyd that more difficult, otherwise restoring a loyd would be easy and we would all be doing it
__________________
2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008.
3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 11-08-18, 09:01
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Andrew, the British wheel pins are threaded on both ends, the bogie as you see it in the photo is looking at its rear, note the webs on the road wheels. Your flanged wheel pins are going on my rear bogies as I’ve only got four original British ones.
Attached Thumbnails
10F12E73-7A23-456F-9FE0-B48E402EE377.jpeg   0CB8D8AE-4414-49AB-842E-0A6D00C02AC2.jpg  
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook

Last edited by ajmac; 11-08-18 at 09:17.
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 11-08-18, 09:56
Andrew Rowe Andrew Rowe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Manawatu , New Zealand
Posts: 544
Smile Double Ended !

You were just trying to trick me!. I new you were up to no good! If you had wanted pins with thread each end , you should have said, Cheers.
__________________
Valentine MkV
Covenanter MkIV
Lynx MKI and MKII
Loyd Carrier / English / Candian / LP.
M3 Stuart
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 11-08-18, 13:09
kevin powles's Avatar
kevin powles kevin powles is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 1,955
Default

Those nut both end pins are better as it makes removal easier as you can hammer it either way when stuck !, every days a school day. :-)
__________________
2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008.
3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo.
1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone.
10 cwt wartime mortar trailer.
1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo.
1943 Willys MB.
1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985.
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 11-08-18, 15:13
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Rowe View Post
You were just trying to trick me!. I new you were up to no good! If you had wanted pins with thread each end , you should have said, Cheers.
Now you tell me :-)
I'll wave to you across the sea from QLD again on Monday, should be landing Sunday evening in Brisbane.
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 11-08-18, 21:41
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Al, Andrew has a crook shoulder so he won't be able to throw any over.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 17-04-20, 22:16
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Things have progressed at a regular slow pace...see video my daughter and I did today.

https://youtu.be/Iq6LrUdpqrg
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 18-04-20, 20:59
Petr Brezina Petr Brezina is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Czech Republic
Posts: 533
Default

Very nice Alastair!
__________________
UCw Mk.III
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 19-04-20, 11:01
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,400
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajmac View Post
Things have progressed at a regular slow pace...see video my daughter and I did today.

https://youtu.be/Iq6LrUdpqrg
Excellent work, Alastair! Realy impressive to see what you've made from those wrecks

I reccomend watching the video - it is very interesting to see, learns you a lot about how the Loyd Carrier.
Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 20-04-20, 19:37
Ron Pier's Avatar
Ron Pier Ron Pier is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Poole. UK
Posts: 1,253
Default

Excellent video Alistair, you and your camera girl could easily do a telly program! Ron
Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 20-04-20, 21:39
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

I enjoyed it as well Alistair. With the body off, we can see the innards of her which we won't be able to do, when she is finished. It will be a shame to bury all your hard work.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 07-05-20, 08:28
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Engine in. 24 stud 3.6 litre built in USA.
Attached Thumbnails
ECF4997E-5603-4CDD-8B16-6F229D632067.jpeg  
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 07-05-20, 09:07
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Alistair, going back to post#65, I see you have the later type seal arrangement.
What did you do about the (outer) felt seal? Did you have circles cut or have you done them with strips?
What are you planning for the generator?
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 08-05-20, 09:27
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Lynn,
I had new ones cut by a friend who worked at an industrial seal company, I just sent an original, both for the main road wheels and the return rollers. They are complete circles.
I have a couple of dynamos, but I will leave that right until the end as I’d like to save up and fit one of those Alternators made to look like a dynamo.
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #81  
Old 09-01-21, 22:31
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

https://youtu.be/P92NjR_NLts

A little Loyd update on YouTube. Perhaps 2021 will be the year it gets mobile!
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 22-05-21, 22:24
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default Update

More progress.

https://youtu.be/u-OOmhpvqEA
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 23-05-21, 08:54
RichardT10829's Avatar
RichardT10829 RichardT10829 is offline
Richard Harrison
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cullercoats Newcastle Upon Tyne United Kingdom
Posts: 3,059
Default

As always, first class work !!

Have really loved watching this machine coming back to life, looking forward to seeing it on one of the tours, Normandy, Holland...

You really get to enjoy the fruits of your labour living off the vehicle for a week.

Great work buddy.
__________________
is mos redintegro

__5th Div___46th Div__
1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI*
Lower Hull No. 10131
War Department CT54508 (SOLD)
1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration).
1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 06-05-22, 06:23
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

I’ve just started a Loyd Carrier instagram page at the behest of my eldest. Loyd should be driving soon.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdGEJnQM...d=NDA1YzNhOGU=
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 18-09-23, 11:57
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Finally its virtually complete. First test after setting up the brakes. I need to be a little more assertive with the throttle!

https://youtu.be/35mRZG_cHmU?si=8qRJlfikaq36RkIO
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 18-09-23, 14:19
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,670
Default

Alastair, your engine test video came up as a suggestion in my youtube account.........and it was good to see it running on it's own tracks. Well done!

Have you set yourself a deadline for any of the "80th" events next year?
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 23-09-23, 22:06
Lynn Eades Lynn Eades is offline
Bluebell
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Tauranga, New Zealand
Posts: 5,534
Default

Hi Alistair. You have come a long way. From little acorns come mighty Oak trees. You are probably the most clued up guy on Loyd Carriers around the world at the moment. From such a minimal start, to this! My respect to you.
__________________
Bluebell

Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 29-09-23, 23:12
ajmac's Avatar
ajmac ajmac is offline
Alastair McMurray
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Lincoln, England
Posts: 433
Default

Thanks guys, let’s hope in 2024 I can get it out and about to some shows.
__________________
Alastair
Lincoln, UK.


Under Restoration:
1944 No2 MK2 Loyd Carrier - Tracked Towing
1944 Ford WOT6 Lorry


The Loyd on Facebook
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 14:06.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016