1 May 2020 Canadian firearms legislation changes

[rob love]

Looking at the latest firearms reference tables (FRT), it shows the PIAT and 2" mortars as being exempt from regulations. At this point, they seem to have just changed the firearms/rocket launcher, grenade launchers, and mortars that were specifically listed in the OIC. But the firearms center have a job to do so no doubt the "prohibited" status of the ones missed will be changed at a later date.


There is an FRT entry for the PIAT. Not sure how it meets the scrutiny of a firearm in the first place as it does not have a barrel. But the FRT does reference to the "trough" as a barrel.

[maple_leaf_eh]

Rob

I subscribe an online FRT lookup site by www dot armalytics dot ca. It is possible the PIAT was added as a "negative" placeholder so there would be no questions about its status.

Edited to add: https://www.armalytics.ca/?q=project...%5Btype%5D=all

[charlie fitton]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I subscribe an online FRT lookup site by www dot armalytics dot ca.

thanks Rob

Just lost another hour of my life....enjoyably for a change..

Amazing what's banned..M 72(though they dont specify loaded or not) is, but the Turkish M72, made under licence is not..

2" Mortar is not, 4.2 in is...3 in doesn't exist...

[rob love]

The firearms act was not really written towards these materials, and it will be close to impossible to meet the storage regulations for some of these items. The inclusion of a lot of these will have been for the purposes of preparing for the OIC. They have a lot of catch-up to do now in order to list all possible models of artillery, mortars, grenade and rocket launchers. This is all towards meeting the present governments agenda of looking like they are serious about crime. Meanwhile, the punishments for the illegal users and smugglers have been lowered in recent years by this government.



To the general public, they will agree that there is no place for civilian ownership of these items, thinking that they can be used to cause mass deaths. They do not see that in virtually all cases, the owners act as private museums and messengers of history. I have had my bren carrier loaded with it's equipment at many carshows downtown, and never had anyone complain. It made it into the newspaper a time or two...no complaints.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

They do not see that in virtually all cases, the owners act as private museums and messengers of history. I have had my bren carrier loaded with it's equipment at many carshows downtown, and never had anyone complain. It made it into the newspaper a time or two...no complaints.

It's never been a problem and instead of being thanked we get kicked in the gut. We 'private museums' get our stuff out for people to see and touch in carefully controlled environments, something dusty museums with stationary displays rarely do.

Amazing to me something we've done for decades is suddenly dangerous and needs shutting down. In an odd way it's 'them' that we are honouring and bringing their achievements to the public.

[chris vickery]

A once proud Canadian, I shall never, ever again, fly a Canadian flag nor display one on or near anything that I own.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

A once proud Canadian, I shall never, ever again, fly a Canadian flag nor display one on or near anything that I own.

Your government of the day obviously disapproves of what you do because you don't think right. You probably don't think the military is to be mocked and underfunded yet called upon to do any chore the government needs of them, or that history is something to be apologized for like they do. Our dear leader actually said that any interest in this equipment beyond seeing it as a tool (ie. if your interest was sport or history) you were 'fetishizing' it. What an absurd thing to say.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

But the FRT does reference to the "trough" as a barrel.

Dammit. Now my house is prohibited. Troughs all the way around. And the downspouts are way over 20mm.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

The ban was a response to a shooting (and an arson that killed almost as many people as the guns) yet goes after legal gun owners and types of firearms, and firearms looking things that really aren't, that the shooter didn't even come close to using. Needless to say the shooter/arsonist was not a licenced gun owner, had been banned from owning them and had a violent past.

The ban was supposed to leave legitimate hunters and sports shooters alone, yet goes after them precisely. Caught in the ban, but stated as not being subject to it yet are, are high end big game and target rifles, many historic antiques, modern muzzle loaders, sporting shotguns and even some industrial devices that shoot projectiles.

The question is whether these things were sloppily included in the government's haste (strike while the tragedy is still fresh I guess) or intended.

Regardless, if the ban isn't overturned it will be the end of many small businesses and the investments hundreds of thousands of people make to the economy, not to mention their own, safe enjoyment.

For this community it is a strong signal the Canadian government does not condone your enthusiasm for military history nor your 'fetish' (our Prime Minister's exact word) for wanting to own it. The group we have running Canada today has shown a distain for all things military, past and present so don't be looking at them to preserve anything.

[Ed Storey]

With the ongoing debate over stricter gun control in Canada it never hurts to provide the uneducated, non-firearm owning, voting masses with as much mis-information as possible. This was published in the 6 June edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

6 June, 2020 - Five-Bullet Limit Urged to Curb Mass Shootings - Ottawa Citizen.jpg

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Ed Storey

With the ongoing debate over stricter gun control in Canada it never hurts to provide the uneducated, non-firearm owning, voting masses with as much mis-information as possible. This was published in the 6 June edition of The Ottawa Citizen.

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Double banning and re-illegalizing something that's already illegal should fix up the gun problem in Canada that, well, is not actually a problem unless you throw in gangs which tend the flaunt guns laws for some strange reason. I think where the zealots are going with this is they want the magazine itself to be only tall enough to hold 5 rounds, sort of like a 3" Sten mag or a stubby Bren banana 'clip'. Or like bastardizing one of those $2000 Bren drums. Great for soothing your uneducated urban folks but not so historically accurate.

I'm starting to believe this Canadian ban was based on the need to prohibit anything and everything that brings a smile to a gun owner or collector's face.