WW2 Ford Generator

[Paul Singleton]

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[Colin Alford]

Interesting,

It appears to be either a Machinery Trailer, Type “22 K.W. Generator” or a Machinery Trailer, “R.E. 25 K.W. Generator”.

Images from Vol VII of the Design Record attached.

I wonder if there is a long-term member of MLU who lives in the general area that has a collection of various types of CMP trailers who might be interested? Barry?

Colin

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Years ago I would have been all over this, I wanted one in the worst way. Unfortunately I no longer have anything to tow it with (and the wife would kill me). I only hope someone gets it to restore and not to strip out the flathead.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Years ago I would have been all over this, I wanted one in the worst way.

Do it! Feel young again!

[Grant Bowker]

Originally Posted by Colin Alford

It appears to be either a Machinery Trailer, Type “22 K.W. Generator” or a Machinery Trailer, “R.E. 25 K.W. Generator”.

My guess is 22 k.w.Generator based on two elements:
1) the proportions of the transverse toolbox ahead of the main enclosure, and
2) absence of the separate V-belt driven welding generator mounted above the main generator (though this could have been removed at a later date...) that should be present on the 25 KW version.

Interesting to see lights typical of earlier M-series on the back of the trailer - this might be a post-service modification (though these lights would have been more expensive than commercial units) or might say something about how long the trailer remained in service.

I believe the 2x duplex outlets that seem to be in commercial boxes, wired with "Romex" would also be later additions.


More info:
The enclosure is the later style - plain panels instead of the louvered ones found on early production (shown in the AEDB photos posted by Colin).
The fuel tank appears to be a replacement, smaller tank. But, the original straps may still be there, folded forward.

Though the trailer/generator may be worthy of preservation as an unusual survivor, it probably won't be too practical as a source of back-up power as both the 22KW and 25KVA are listed in their manuals as providing 110 VDC power. Given the stated 110 VDC output, I'm puzzled about the (likely added) outlets shown in the photos. Did the owner do some creative wiring or did they use it for loads that can accept the DC power (lighting? small heater?).

[James P]

Guys, just convince the wifey you need this should there be a wide spread, prolonged, multi day black out so you do not have to live like the Amish, or Canada in the 1860s.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by James P

Guys, just convince the wifey you need this should there be a wide spread, prolonged, multi day black out so you do not have to live like the Amish, or Canada in the 1860s.

Stop it. I don't need any encouragement.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Stop it. I don't need any encouragement.

We wouldn't do that to you!

[Matthew P]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

Though the trailer/generator may be worthy of preservation as an unusual survivor, it probably won't be too practical as a source of back-up power as both the 22KW and 25KVA are listed in their manuals as providing 110 VDC power. Given the stated 110 VDC output, I'm puzzled about the (likely added) outlets shown in the photos. Did the owner do some creative wiring or did they use it for loads that can accept the DC power (lighting? small heater?).

I have the Hobart/Chrysler welder-generator version of this unit in US form. It also has 110V DC outlets. Apparently most small motors like those in handheld power tools (like grinders, drills etc) are "Universal" and will run on DC voltage. Here's the Wikipedia 101 course on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_motor

Matt

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Paul Singleton

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The trailer:

Ford generator
C$1,500
Details
Condition
Used – fair
Flat head Ford V8 gas
Military generator
It cranks over with a battery hooked up
Great restoration project
Centre Hastings, ON
Seller information
Tyler Hatcher

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

And part 2, the generator.

Agree, I hope is will be preserved as a unit!

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[Barry Churcher]

Colin I saw this add about 6:00 am yesterday morning and had my finger on the button all day long. I went to a patio supper with Les Fisher, Brian Gough and my son. After a brief discussion with them I planned to sleep on it. Today cooler heads have prevailed and I will sadly leave it for someone else.
Thanks Paul for posting this.
Barry

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Barry Churcher

Colin I saw this add about 6:00 am yesterday morning and had my finger on the button all day long. I went to a patio supper with Les Fisher, Brian Gough and my son. After a brief discussion with them I planned to sleep on it. Today cooler heads have prevailed and I will sadly leave it for someone else.
Thanks Paul for posting this.
Barry

Kay, so how much of a price drop before you hit the 'buy it now' button? Despite having no place for it I've mulled over what that figure would be for me.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Kay, so how much of a price drop before you hit the 'buy it now' button? Despite having no place for it I've mulled over what that figure would be for me.

Gosh you Blokes are Deep Thinkers! Jump in and Buy It Now!

Look at that Instrument Panel, using a '37-'39 instrument cluster and the choke and throttle knobs from a CMP (or '40-'41 Commercial). I've seen a lot of GM Diesel gensets that use Delco instruments, but this is the first Ford unit I've seen to do it. This unit would clean up and display nicely. Don't let the Hot Rodders get it!