Identification of these??

[Ganmain Tony]

Learned colleagues...

Does anyone know what these lights are off??? They appear to be a clearance light of some sort.

They have a switch on them (in front of the hooky thingy) and the lenses unscrew.

[Matt Stephenson]

Hi Tony,

I've seen something like this before. It was described to me as a trouble light for the LP2 bren gun carrier, although I can't confirm thats what they are. I'm probably wrong, and frequently am as my wife likes to point out. If they are trouble lights for an aust bgc, the one offered to me was quite expensive, and well outside not only my budget but what I would consider to be a reasonable price for such an item.

Hope this helps somewhat....

[Ganmain Tony]

Wow! Quick reply! Amazing the collective brain of this Forum. I reckon we could plan for world domination if we wanted to.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Actually, they're part of the Lamp, Signalling Daylight, xxxx Range, and are the "hands-free" torch used by the operator (so he can see to read the message form). (xxxx can be "Short", which is powered by 12 volts worth of dry cells, or "Long", which has a larger lamp (5", I think) and uses a 10 volt lead-acid battery.)

It should have a few feet of (usually fabric covered) flexible cable with a 2-pin plug on the end that connects to the main unit.

The hook is to attach it to a coat/tunic button.

There's one here, in the middle of the second photo.

Chris.

[Ganmain Tony]

Any more photo's Chris? Very interested to know more. Are the ones I took photo's of an Australian variant? As they do not appear identical to the one in your link picture.

Were they part of Vehicle "Kit"???

Originally Posted by Chris Suslowicz

Actually, they're part of the Lamp, Signalling Daylight, xxxx Range, and are the "hands-free" torch used by the operator (so he can see to read the message form). (xxxx can be "Short", which is powered by 12 volts worth of dry cells, or "Long", which has a larger lamp (5", I think) and uses a 10 volt lead-acid battery.)

It should have a few feet of (usually fabric covered) flexible cable with a 2-pin plug on the end that connects to the main unit.

The hook is to attach it to a coat/tunic button.

There's one here, in the middle of the second photo.

Chris.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Ganmain Tony

Any more photo's Chris? Very interested to know more. Are the ones I took photo's of an Australian variant? As they do not appear identical to the one in your link picture.

Were they part of Vehicle "Kit"???

Those are Australian, because they have the D/|\D stamp on them. They may have been produced by Stromberg Carlson (if I've spelt that right). The British ones were made by Joseph Lucas, C.A.V., and a variety of others, and the torch part is a bakelite (or other plastic) moulding.

I'll see if I can do some photographs, and also scan the relevant documentation - Signal Training (All Arms), either the 1938 book or the Visual Signalling pamphlet No.2 that was part of the series that replaced it in 1942.

The torch itself is not part of a vehicle kit, it's only a component of the daylight signalling lamp outfit (for use at night, obviously).

Regards,
Chris.

[Euan McDonald]

Matt, your wife is right, they aren't BGC trouble lights!