M135 CDN MRT Photographs

Seatyger · #1 18-12-11, 21:08

Does anyone have or know who has, photographs of the M135 MRT in use? Or even static photographs? I am also interested in hearing from anyone who used one.

And to be more of a nuisance, can anyone tell me the type of hydraulic pump that was used to operate the HIAB Crane?

Thanks in advance

Jim Dalueg
Woodstock, Ontario

Jon Skagfeld · #2 18-12-11, 21:41

James...Greetings:

Having instructed on many MLVW courses at a local CF base, some of our vehs had the HIAB crane as part of their ECC (Equipment Configuration Code).

Since we weren't allowed to teach the operation of the HIAB, I didn't pay much attention to the data plate information.

Next time I'm up at the base (Happy Hour

), I'll try and get said info for you.

Speaking of MRT, I have a few pics of a HUMMVEE MRT, used by CSOR, based out of our local base...bet you didn't kinow how many HUMMVEEs the CF had

Regards

rob love · #3 18-12-11, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Skagfeld

Speaking of MRT, I have a few pics of a HUMMVEE MRT, used by CSOR, based out of our local base...bet you didn't kinow how many HUMMVEEs the CF had

Regards

I recall there were between 2 and 6 for something called STEW. I think XXX had a few as well.

Comox Air Force Museum · #4 19-12-11, 03:34

Jim. Your in luck as I have a manual for the Hiab. I've scanned some of the pages for you including the pump.

Hope these help.
Rob

Seatyger · #5 19-12-11, 21:36

Thanks for the replies Folks! Much appreciated. In the manual Rob, does it show if the pump is attached to/driven by the PTO? Would you have any information or diagrams as to how it is attached and powered?

Again I want to say thanks and Merry Christmas to everyone.

Jim

Comox Air Force Museum · #6 20-12-11, 18:06

Jim. There is no definite pics of the pump mounted on the truck. The pump is driven by the PTO drive on the transfer though, as per

Maybe this will make sense to you it's the pump mounting bracket.

Here's the hydraulic schematic with the pump shown directly below.

Rob

Seatyger · #7 20-12-11, 18:32

Thanks Brother !!

The Light Bulb is starting to flicker On! I truely appreciate the illustrations.
Much appreciated. You & yours have a great Christmas.

Jim

rob love · #8 20-12-11, 18:36

I would suggest that the PTO shaft shown on the bottom right corner of the illustrations would show the pump to be mounted away from the PTO.

There is one of these trucks at the local salvage yard in unmolested condition if you need any photos. They may have to wait a few months though as winter has set in.

Seatyger · #9 20-12-11, 18:47

Hi Rob,

You are becoming one of my Heroes! Is it a working truck or are the parts available to acquire? If yes I will pay you and the 'Yard' to make it find its way to me here lol!

Worse case scenario, photographs are always helpful!

rob love · #10 20-12-11, 19:03

The truck has not been run in a few years, but is a complete truck to be sold as such. I actually used it back in 87 to strip down 30 M151A2 jeeps. Made it easy to un-do the drive shaft bolts with the jeep standing straight up.

Gunner · #11 20-12-11, 19:49

Hi Rob Roy: Any chance you might scan the whole manual and post it on the MLU website; or loan the manual to Grant Bowker who is now Mr Manuals for him to scan and put on discs?

Seatyger: I'm going to overhauling one of these beasties next summer too so perhaps we can share info/expertise.

Rob Love: Any inspiring cautions on using the Hiab will be most welcome. I did the course a hundred years ago but haven't used one since I was a sprog!

Cheers! Mike

rob love · #12 20-12-11, 20:52

About the only common sense thing I can say about using the Hiab is never trust your life to hydraulics. In other words don't stand under the crane, especially with a load.

I have another that applies more to the newer crane on the MLVW: If you can't get the pin to go into the hole to stow the outrigger back into the up position, do not run your finger into the hole to find out why it won't go in. We had one of the artilleryman do that in Bosnia. And yes, it cost him a digit or two. Actually, that point is valid for any hydraulic pins, from cranes to buckets to blades. Use a stick.

One other point I guess: Use the outriggers, even if it is a light load or the crane is empty. I don't recall the problem on the old duece, but on the M36 MLVW, they were very prone to cracking the center cross members on that very long frame.

Gunner · #13 20-12-11, 20:57

Thanks Rob:

The L5 cured me of putting my fingers anywhere there was a guillotine effect! Too many of my gunners had short digits or were short digits!!

I hadn't thought about using the outriggers if operating the crane with no load... good advice!

If we don't chat before Sat have a great Christmas... I'm doing the palm tree thing this year so no white Christmas for me!

Ubique! Mike

Seatyger · #14 20-12-11, 22:10

Gunner, I'd be more than happy to swap stories, turn wrenches, compare notes or consume the beverage of choice and eat good food lol! I will be cranking up my project once the weather gets back to 'Outdoor Workable with Arthritic Joints!'

You Guys have been a great help and invaluable resource. Not wanting to sound like a Kiss Ass, but the information I have received via Posts and PM's in the last week alone have more than 'paid' for the donation sent to MLU.

Being kind of Old School, I am more of a Book/Manual kind of Guy, Its taking a bit of figuring out how to navigate the web efficiently. This Site has been a great tool.

I am a bit curious as to where all the older threads are or how to find them? I take it MLU has been around for a while.

Again Thanks and Merry Christmas

Jim

mel gabel · #15 28-12-11, 00:41

Jim, not sure if you are looking for the PTO and hydraulics (pump, lines, reservoir). I have an M211 that was used as mechanics truck that supposedly had a lift in the cargo box. When I bought the truck, it came with a hydraulic pump driven off the transfer case, the lines and a reservoir. I have stripped those components off the truck if you are looking to acquire them.

PM me or phone (905-854-4576) if you are interested.

Mel

maple_leaf_eh · #16 30-12-11, 04:07

In the late 70's I spent a summer as a construction worker in Alert (then) NWT. Somehow the staff trusted me with a dual wheel "Deuce" with HIAB. No course or 404's (on that model at least), but a quick walk and talk through. It was a handy tool to load generators and other heavy small objects. I used it to lug supplies to one work party working out on the tundra, building a water pipeline as I recall. I told myself if circumstances presented themselves and I needed a truck with a crane, that would be very good first option. I still think that way.

markcos · #17 25-01-12, 18:17

Hey Rob , is their a phone number or away
To get in touch with the owner of this truck that
You used for the 30 mutts , I have been looking for
Some time now for just the picker or a hole truck if
I must, to put on my M135 w/winch
Thanks .780-445-0637Mark

rob love · #18 25-01-12, 19:04

I'll shoot you a PM with the details.

markcos · #19 29-01-12, 00:02

Hey Rob , thanks again for the info , u are always a great help for every one in this hobby
I was hopeing that was not going to be the name of the person
That u sent , but I think I will keep looking as that guy thinks it's all
Gold and will take it to the grave. Lol
Is it not funny how Evan military vehicles that don't run
And need like $6000 to $9000 bucks to get road worth are commanding
Top dollar , I guess some MVs will just sit in their coffin and rot untill their
Useless to all
Lol