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Old 02-06-13, 15:37
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Default "Falaise" Otter number 2

Does anyone know the outcome of two recent MV auctions this last April and May?

There was the April 27 Dundee Motor Pool Collection in Michigan (I think this is the one with the F60S Bofors truck and a Windsor carrier) and the May 31 Aiolis & Partners Auction in Caen, France that included two Otter hulls.
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Old 02-06-13, 15:58
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....the May 31 Aiolis & Partners Auction in Caen, France that included two Otter hulls.
Bruce,

The two Otters were auctioned by AIOLFI & Partners. Maybe the results will be published on their website http://www.aiolfipartners.com?

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Old 02-06-13, 16:03
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Maybe the results will be published on their website http://www.aiolfipartners.com?
I looked there first and didn't see anything.
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Old 02-06-13, 16:27
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I looked there first and didn't see anything.
It typically takes a few working days to process the results.
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Old 02-06-13, 18:42
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Hi Bruce,

I bought the one without the turret. I prefered it as it was on its original chassis, with gear box and transferbox. The other one was on a C15a or gun tractor chassis and had been cut in front to fit.
About 10 years ago Michel Leloup, owner of the Falaise museum showed me the two Otters and I was told that the one I have now had original wartime damage to the roof and drivers footwell. The big question will be how to restore it and preserve the damage.

Here's my one.

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Old 02-06-13, 19:12
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Hi Bruce,

I bought the one without the turret. I prefered it as it was on its original chassis, with gear box and transferbox. The other one was on a C15a or gun tractor chassis and had been cut in front to fit.
About 10 years ago Michel Leloup, owner of the Falaise museum showed me the two Otters and I was told that the one I have now had original wartime damage to the roof and drivers footwell. The big question will be how to restore it and preserve the damage.
James
I see the pack is growing, glad to hear it!! Do you know where the other one went? and (don't answer if you want) but did they go anywhere near the catalog price?
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Old 02-06-13, 22:15
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I bought the one without the turret. I prefered it as it was on its original chassis, with gear box and transferbox. The other one was on a C15a or gun tractor chassis and had been cut in front to fit.
About 10 years ago Michel Leloup, owner of the Falaise museum showed me the two Otters and I was told that the one I have now had original wartime damage to the roof and drivers footwell. The big question will be how to restore it and preserve the damage.
Well done on saving it, James

Are you going to restore it as a turretless Otter?

As for the wartime damage, I'd suggest to carry out the repairs as they would have done during WW2. I'm sure there is (REME?) manual out there describing how to repair damaged armour.

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Old 30-11-13, 10:22
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Default Otter number 2 comes home!

After 5 months, all the peperwork was complete and we collected the second Otter from Normandy last week!
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ok you teased us with a nice pic but how about more info on it
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It originally came from the collection of Michel Leloup who owned the Falaise museum in Normandy. For many years it was at his woodyard near Aigle with another Otter, his Panther and the remains of several other vehicles.
When this closed down it was moved up to the museum and was stored behind the museum. On his death it went into the auction in May.

Mr Leloup rescued many vehicles from around Normandy and he told me this was one of them. It has bomb damage to the roof, a shrapnel hole in the drivers footwell which you can see from the photo and also the fuel tank has exploded.

Big question now is what to do with the damage?
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Old 30-11-13, 16:52
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Mr Leloup rescued many vehicles from around Normandy and he told me this was one of them. It has bomb damage to the roof, a shrapnel hole in the drivers footwell which you can see from the photo and also the fuel tank has exploded.

Big question now is what to do with the damage?
James,

Good to see you have it in the UK now! Re. the damage, I like your idea to restore it and preserve the damage (as discussed during "Beltring-on-Sea"). If that proves impractical - or impossible to drive - I would carry out the repairs as they would have done during WW2 as per the REME manual provided by Richard. They would still be very visible and serve as a poignant reminder of the damages of war.

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Old 30-11-13, 16:57
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Hi Hanno,

At the moment it looks like it will be driveable as is, If a little breezy! However I do like your suggestion.

I will post some pictures of the damage tomorrow so you can get a better idea.

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ok you teased us with a nice pic but how about more info on it
Andrew, see

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...790#post180790

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...661#post178661

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...0023#post70023

HTH,
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