Upper & Lower Cab Sealing

[S. Dafoe]

I have the upper roof removed from the lower cab portion on a 1944 Chevrolet CMP. Before I "reinstall" it I wanted to know what people use for anti-squeak material. The material on the cab now (original) appears to be like a tarpaper or canvas of sort.

What is correct/original? What do most people use in their restorations?

Thank you!

Stew

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Stew

I am pondering the same problem... I have saved all kind of little Pieces of that elusive canvas tape........ but for the sake of protecting from furhter rust I intned to use a non-porous material.......

Electrical shops ... the ones selling to "real" electricians stock a pure rubber tape in 1 and 1 1/2 inch tape .... very soft... strechy .... can be bent to curve the angle iron you are referring to.

However it may be too narrow for some application....... this source I have not explored yet but I have been told is readily available.

Winshield installers ... automotive glass shops have a special .... various width... very sticky rubber tape which they use to install glass in window channels.... basically glues ove the edge and wraps up on both the iside and outside of the glass and keeps the metal from having any contact with the glass itself..... also seals out any water. They should be able to sell you a roll.

Don Dingwall, who is in the same process , had considered using some surplus thin webbing he saw in a surplus store and soak it in a diluted tar solution........ sounds messy to me.

Curious to see what other suggestions you will receive.....

[Pete Ashby]

A number of years ago I bought a number of rolls of tared cork from Nordian Services, about 1" wide and a 1/16" thick.
This was new old stock for 12 and early 13 cabs.
I need some more myself but havent been able to find a source to date in the UK. Try some of the US vintage car sites ?

Pete

[S. Dafoe]

Bob & Pete,

Thanks for your responses.

A) As an option I was considering tar paper. It could be cut to width and would be waterproof at least. It would be easy and quick and readily available.

B) At the same time I have seen the "windshield type" material you have referred to. It is kind of like a duct seal and has a paper backing on one "sticky side." It too would work well but I wonder if it would be messy for future removal and if it would "sqeeze" out when the bolts were torqued down. It too would be waterproof.

C) I'm not sure about fender welt type material.

D) You could always use a gasket material of sorts like an RTV sealant "ultra black" or something of the like.

E) Does anyone know what the original material was anyway? Canvas?

Also - Bob did you buy your truck in Almonte? I am familiar with that area as I had a friend that lived there for a number of years but never did see a CMP there. Where was it located? I think I saw some CMP rims on a trailer in Almonte but that is quite common almost everywhere!

Let me know what you decide to use for your material ... I will probably follow suit.

Stewart

[Dirk Leegwater (RIP)]

Originally posted by Pete Ashby
A number of years ago I bought a number of rolls of tared cork from Nordian Services, about 1" wide and a 1/16" thick.
This was new old stock for 12 and early 13 cabs.

Hi Pete,

The "Nordian Services" Canadian stock is still alive, not in England but in Holland. Look at Lwd's website http://www.lwdparts.com select the category Front and Sides and find part & number MC - 17772A "antisqueak".

Mvg. Dirk

[Harry Moon]

I used the same material I got from the glass shop that I used on the gas tank brackets. About 2 inchs wide soft and wide enough that I ran it along the edge of the back and roof, lightly tapping with a hammer to cut to width, which also gave me the location of the bolt holes that I knocked out with a cut down 303 case.used the same stuff for the front clip to firewall posts, and again under the windshield mounting bracket. A 100 ft roll should do a whole truck with enough left for a few small items here and there. Now I remember it is also available at heavy truck outlets (Kenworth) for both gas tanks and glass.

[chris vickery]

Stew, get yourself some standard mil-spec web of proper width, a can of Tremclad black paint, and bingo, a close representation of the original stuff at a reasonable price, waterproof too!

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Stew

Yes my C15a cab11 came from a service station auction just West of Almonte...
...old chap by the name of McKay... he was selling everything and shutting down to Winter in Florida.

Nought the truck for the large bid of $135 back in 1979..... only reason I paid so much was that a local farmer wanted the truck to cut up for the central mounted winch. I towed it to a frineds place a few miles away.....Gary Winters... and ti sat there until 1998 when I floated it home.

That auction had everything... old blacksmith tools...forge...post ,ounted drill... tons of old Nash, Hudson, Ford engine block and tranny which went for pennies.......

On the trailer bit .. it was common for farmers to dismantel the front axles from CMP and weld just the outter flange on tubing to make axles..... also seen a lot of hay wagons for midgets made from axles and 13 inch wheels of anti tank gun axles....... the war surplus at the curve of Montclair and St Redempteur in Hull.... not far from the casino.... used to have dozens of these cannons.... breech block cut off and a square hole cut midway in the tube ... he also sold some surplus CF 100 jet engines to our high school including the trailer it was bolted to... the teachers had us take them apart and bagged the nuts and bolts for resale..... they had high quality fasteners every 2 inches...

Them were the days.....

[Bob Carriere]

Hi Chris

Where do you get Mil-Spec web ....and I would be concerned that the web and Tremclad paint would dry too hard and become to brittle to prevent squeaking and tolerate some body movement flex.


What do you think.....

[chris vickery]

Bob, got to thinking about this dilemma. It would be worth the experiment. Will try out my "tremclad" theory this weekend as I've some left over webbing. Another thought would be to get some drivewy sealer or roofing tar and try to duplicate. The original material was only tar-impregnated canvas web anyhow. I've seen the mil-spec web at shows, most surplus dealers carry it, guys like Weebee webbing etc. Will try it out and get back on it.

[Pete Ashby]

Originally posted by Dirk Leegwater
Hi Pete,

The "Nordian Services" Canadian stock is still alive, not in England but in Holland. Look at Lwd's website http://www.lwdparts.com select the category Front and Sides and find part & number MC - 17772A "antisqueak".

Mvg. Dirk

Dirk

thanks for the heads up, could you put a couple of rolls on one side for me,

Thanks

Pete

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Bob C.
Nought the truck for the large bid of $135 back in 1979..... only reason I paid so much was that a local farmer wanted the truck to cut up for the central mounted winch.

Paid so much?!? Just out of curiosity, what was the CDN$ worth in 1979?

[S. Dafoe]

Bob,

I see now why I was not aware of the truck in Almonte. It wasn't until about ten years ago that I starting visiting Almonte. Sounds like the station (and truck) were gone well before that point. It is a nice little town and growing due to its relative proximity to Kanata and Ottawa!

S

[Bob Carriere]

Well Hanno in 1979 the Canadian dollar was worth a dollar... at least in Canada.

.....got ya!!! If my failing memory serves me right about that period the CDN buck was around the .85 to .88 US ......

...for comparaison at the same period you could by a running M37 Dodge for about $850 to $1000 CDN for the government surplus auctions.

Them were the good ol' days!!!!

...and Stew.... I believe the old garage is still sitting there.... right hand side..... very close to the road.... no fuel pumps....and vacant brown building. Just a bit West of the above ground water pool(sewer treatment??).......

Probably got one of the last fairly complete early cab 11 in the area ........ and for a good price.