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Old 19-08-23, 01:06
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T16 Universal Carrier of the Royal Hamilton Light Infantry at the Bossestraat road, Woensdrecht, The Netherlands, 16 October 1944.
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Old 27-08-23, 04:54
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Can anyone tell me the purpose of the small rectangular metal plates, with tapped holes in them, that are situated along the top of the sides and on the front armor as clearly seen in posts 7 & 8?
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Old 27-08-23, 14:24
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They are the mounts for the wading equipment panels.
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Old 28-08-23, 00:40
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Thanks Ed for that information, can you direct me to a photo of a vehicle with that wading equipment attached?
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Old 28-08-23, 21:41
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Default Wading Carriers.

Bob,

I just happened to have some pix from the internet of Carriers with wading equipment.

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Old 29-08-23, 01:11
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Perfect, thank you very much!
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Old 03-11-23, 23:27
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“American-born members of Support Company, The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada, South Beveland, Netherlands, 30 September 1944.“

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Either the date or the location is wrong. On September 30 the war diary notes that the Watch was still in Belgium. They fought around Antwerp for a few more days and then had to fight to open the "neck" of the Beveland isthmus and claw their way into South Beveland.
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Old 04-11-23, 23:14
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“American-born members of Support Company, The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada, South Beveland, Netherlands, 30 September 1944.“
Not meaning to through doubt on anything, but I think the confusion between the caption for the photo and the war diary may be because I don't think the troops or carrier in the photo are from the Black Watch of Canada. The shoulder patch visible on the the Sergeant to the right is of the wrong shape and there would be no reason to have a Roman numeral XII on the front plate.

But I always am willing to admit that I could be wrong.

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Old 05-11-23, 02:10
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In my father's written memoirs [Captain- company CO in Patton's 3rd army]. His unit was absolutely forbidden to enter an abandoned town. A commonwealth unit in carriers passed them and went into the town for the evening. That night a large allied air bombing run was made on that town. Dad said it was a sad sight, next day, of carriers blown into houses, even into the second story. Italian campaign. I haven't found his written memoirs yet. Dave N
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Old 05-11-23, 02:35
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Not meaning to through doubt on anything, but I think the confusion between the caption for the photo and the war diary may be because I don't think the troops or carrier in the photo are from the Black Watch of Canada. The shoulder patch visible on the the Sergeant to the right is of the wrong shape and there would be no reason to have a Roman numeral XII on the front plate.

But I always am willing to admit that I could be wrong.

I agree with Dan's assessment that the badges worn in the photograph do not appear to be the 'barrel shape' used on the shoulder badges of the various 2nd Canadian Infantry Division infantry regiments. Unfortunately the resolution of the image is too low to make an accurate investigation of the badge. I also thought the the Roman numeral XII on the front plate was a vehicle tactical marking and not something directly linked to a specific regiment. The real problem is that determining the facts behind this photograph is little more than educated guessing without any context information. If this is a LAC photograph, then knowing the PA number would be a good start.
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Old 05-11-23, 05:24
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Ed,

It appears that the PA number is PA-168677

This link will hopefully take you to 10 images with the date of 30 September 1944: https://recherche-collection-search....d&OnlineCode=1

For someone with better knowledge/ reference material, the reported units and locations may help to determine if the reported dates are correct.

Edit: It looks like the link is providing more than the ten results.
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Old 05-11-23, 09:30
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Default Copy negative [1967-052 NPC] PA-168677

Gents,

Thanks for picking through this. I must admit that I merely posted the photo with the caption provided, plus one relevant response by Steve Guthrie.

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It appears that the PA number is PA-168677
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For someone with better knowledge/ reference material, the reported units and locations may help to determine if the reported dates are correct.
Colin has provided the link to the source material in the archives: https://recherche-collection-search....Number=3230698

While the unit may be wrongly attributed to this photo, the "American-born members" are named as: "(L-R): Private R.F. Gallahan, Sergeants F.J. Garvis and A. McGrail". This may be a lead to find out the unit they served in.
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Old 05-11-23, 13:20
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T16 in Caen, Normandie

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(lovely research by Michel Le Querrec, by the way!)
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Old 05-11-23, 15:21
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I believe the red arrow is pointing to the unit shoulder title and the blue arrow is pointing to the division patch. Does that change your assessment?
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Old 05-11-23, 16:27
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T16 in Caen, Normandie

source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/moogk/...7696364296761/

(lovely research by Michel Le Querrec, by the way!)
More photos of this bridge at: https://web.archive.org/web/20220401...juillet%201944 (go down about 1/3rd of the page. The entrance walls on the south bank are distinctive.)
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Old 06-11-23, 21:44
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“A Universal Carrier of The Cameron Highlanders of Ottawa (M.G.) passing through Holten, Netherlands, 9 April 1945.”

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Old 12-11-23, 19:14
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Sorry if there not T16 carriers. All photos are from my collection. The first 4 are taken from the original negatives. A few are of MTC drivers. And the last with a Humber taken in 1945 Europe.
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I suspect that the photograph is of infantry carriers as a reconnaissance regiment would not have had towed anti-tank guns in its establishment.
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The Canadian discussion during 1943/1944, of universal carriers being adapted to tow Ordnance QF 6-pounder and Trailer, 10-Cwt, produced an estimate of towing hooks required. As indicated in the following estimate, November, 1944: Recce Regts had a requirement for either 12 or 18 towing attachments each, for their 6pr A Tk establishment.

Ed, I imagine there will be supporting detail to indicate the actual deployment of the 6pr with these two Recce Regts in the N.W.E. theatre? At present, an image of a Cdn Recce Regt universal carrier deployed, ‘44/‘45 towing a 6pr in N.W.E. is elusive.

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Old 17-02-24, 12:16
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I came across these in the picture archive of Stichting Oud Meppel:

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There are also pictures of other Canadian vehicles in there, such as Ram Kangaroos, a Ram ARV, and Archer SP guns.
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