Methyl bromide fire extinguisher

[Jesse Browning]

Does anyone have the measurements for a WWII methyl bromide fire extinguisher such as would be used on armored vehicles? I need to make a couple for my Sexton. Thanks, Jesse.

[marco]

Hello Jesse,

Hereby a drawing from an example I have here.

Succes!

Marco

[BCA]

Here is an original bromide extinguisher hanging in my sample room. Gives an idea of the markings. ... Brian

[Gerald Ratcliffe]

Thank you for uploading the engineering drawing of the bromide fire Ex, I've used it to base my own reproductions for my Ferret. Thank you! UPDATE I've now updated my design with a better bottle and bracket made few extra (March 2021) youtube search methyl bromide fire extinguisher or see my post below this one.

[David Herbert]

Gerald,
That looks very good, well done !

The real ones are not exactly identical to each other, particularly in the shape of the brass parts. I assume this is because of different manufacturers rather than date related.

David

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by Jesse Browning

Does anyone have the measurements for a WWII methyl bromide fire extinguisher such as would be used on armored vehicles? I need to make a couple for my Sexton. Thanks, Jesse.

Hello Jesse,

I was uncertain about the "methyl" part of the fire extinguisher? Methyl Bromide was a nerve gas and is used as a soil fumigant. It is very - very toxic stuff. I then checked online and came across this link Accessed 16th of October 2015 from, http://collections.museumvictoria.com.au/items/408264

Here is an old advertisement from England in 1940 about them - Accessed 16th of October 2015 from, https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarch...0-%201021.html

I also found a newspaper article about a Methyl Bromide poisoning that recounts as survivor's story about how their fireman father brought home an old fire extinguisher that he did not know was leaking Accessed 16th of October 2015 from, http://www.kmbc.com/news/methyl-brom...mpact/32242878 dated 9:38 PM CDT Apr 07, 2015

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Jesse Browning]

Thank you gentlemen. Jesse.

[Robin Craig]

Have you considered turning one up in wood?


Robin

[jdmcm]

Hey Jesse

I bought a huge lot of fire extinguisher bottles for armored vehicles at the
Littlefield auction last summer, I am only interested in the Sherman bottles, I will check to see if there happen to be any of the bottles you are after in the lot.

John

[Tim Bell]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

Hey Jesse

I bought a huge lot of fire extinguisher bottles for armored vehicles at the
Littlefield auction last summer, I am only interested in the Sherman bottles, I will check to see if there happen to be any of the bottles you are after in the lot.

John

John

Interested in Sherman interior extinguishers and also the Methyl Bromide ones for my Sherman Firefly.

If you have more spare and for sale i would be very interested in hearing from you.

Cheers

Tim

[tankbarrell]

I make brackets for these if any one needs some.

[Douglas Greville]

Adrian

I have made the bracket, but need the strap and buckle.

How much for just those parts please?

Regards
Doug
www.owningtanks.com

[SDT16]

Originally Posted by jdmcm

Hey Jesse

I bought a huge lot of fire extinguisher bottles for armored vehicles at the
Littlefield auction last summer, I am only interested in the Sherman bottles, I will check to see if there happen to be any of the bottles you are after in the lot.

John

JDMCM, I would be interested in some as well for our Sexton if you find you have a surplus. I might need some of the bottles for the engine compartment system as well.

Sean

[lssah2025]

I have a few reproduction ones, might see if we can get them cast or redone etc. I will check to see what cost might be, so maybe doing up an order.

[tankbarrell]

Sorry for my tardiness in replying to the various messages.

I have enough parts for 14 more brackets and I will probably process them into completed units in one hit to keep the set up costs down. I have previously been making them as required.

Doug, I don't have spare strap parts so don't really want to sell them separately as I will then be left with useless brackets.

The spring clamp can accommodate genuine or repro extinguishers.

Price each is £70, as in the picture, no extinguisher though! Happy to ship worldwide, will try to get shipping prices for those who asked.

[Douglas Greville]

Adrian

The bracket is the heavy part, postage to Australia would be horrific.

As I have already made the brackets quite some time back, I am only in
need of the straps and buckles. Even they, will be expensive to post to
Oz.

So next time you do some, do an extra 3 straps please?

Regards
Doug

Originally Posted by tankbarrell

Sorry for my tardiness in replying to the various messages.

I have enough parts for 14 more brackets and I will probably process them into completed units in one hit to keep the set up costs down. I have previously been making them as required.

Doug, I don't have spare strap parts so don't really want to sell them separately as I will then be left with useless brackets.

The spring clamp can accommodate genuine or repro extinguishers.

Price each is £70, as in the picture, no extinguisher though! Happy to ship worldwide, will try to get shipping prices for those who asked.

[Jesse Browning]

From 2 years ago.

[Perry Kitson]

With 4 1/2 round aluminum at 18.6 pounds per foot. the finished reproduction extinguishers will be about the same weight as an original full one, around 14 to 15 pounds. Turning the bottles from solid aluminum is going to be the least expensive option. The machining estimate should be quite close.

Perry

[Douglas Greville]

Originally Posted by Perry Kitson

With 4 1/2 round aluminum at 18.6 pounds per foot. the finished reproduction extinguishers will be about the same weight as an original full one, around 14 to 15 pounds. Turning the bottles from solid aluminum is going to be the least expensive option. The machining estimate should be quite close.

Perry

Perry

If you are making the retaining clamp/band for the mounting bracket I would
be interested in a couple?

Regards
Doug

[David B.]

Thanks chaps,this extinguisher had only been described to me as brass at the time of originally posting the enquiry.
Now I've seen it I can see its copper - don't know about markings though.

[Lynn Eades]

Tony, I have never seen the dash, just the top edge of it, enough to know its Cab 11 or Cab 12. There is nearly no documentation that I have been able to find. The info is scarce.
When are you in N.Z. next? Email me.

[Gerald Ratcliffe]

Hi, I've made a couple for my ferret and have a few spare, i will make to order, also make the brackets. valve and strikers are turned from solid brass and bottles are polyester resin, they are accurate in weight too. youtube search methyl bromide fire extinguisher Brackets are anti tamper and you need a 8mm spanner and a 5mm allen key to remove your precious fire extinguisher! email: gr8cruisers@yahoo.co.uk

[lssah2025]

PM sent to address.

[David B.]

Does anyone know if these extinguishers were made in copper rather than brass and was there a civilian equivalent ?
What marks would be typically stamped on these items please.

[tankbarrell]

All of the originals I have examined have bodies made from copper with brass valve heads. They were a standard extinguisher in more than one size so likely civilian and military, rather like the Pyrene type.
I've heard that the Methyl Bromide ate away at the copper over time hence the relative scarcity today.

[Lynn Eades]

I have these. They are copper bodied with a brass valve. Not sure what they contained. They were the original type on my carrier at production. They have dates from 1934 and 1936> I was once told they were fitted in Tiger Moths> I used to have a nice one once with a complete label, but sold it prior to contracting this (carrier) disease.
I assume they were Pyrene? (More so after Adrian's post)
Not sure what striking the knob did.

[Tony Smith]

Threadjacker2000 warning!

Lynn, is that the NZ LP1 dash? More pics please?