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Old 10-11-20, 17:46
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Default 2 Mystery headgear seeking identification?

Hi All,
I have in my collection a couple headgear that I have no idea what era or use they had with what helmet (or otherwise).
Does anybody know the history of either of them?
Thanks,Derk
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The other one;
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The inside photo's of both;
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Default One mystery headgear solved?

As I was posting pictures of the mesh headgear with the button snaps, it jogged my memory of another mystery piece of headgear I have sitting in the collection that nobody seems to know about. It's supposedly part of an Armoured corps helmet, C broad arrow marked, part of a late war design, with 3 snaps to secure it to something?
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Default Fitting helmet pad to mesh headgear;

That's what got me thinking of the placements of the snap buttons of the mesh headgear so I tried fitting the 2 together and;
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Old 10-11-20, 18:51
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Default So..........

The snap buttons seem to line up and the 2 leather straps in the back of the mesh headgear even line up with securing the pad to the headgear.
It looks oddball but seems to fit together.
What do you think? Am I onto something here?
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Old 10-11-20, 22:23
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The pads at the ears are for headsets. I would try 19 set ones and if they fit these do look like tank helmets. Like Hanno I've never seen anything like them so have to wonder if they are trial or prototype. With all the padding yet light weigh material they were obviously meant for heads that got rattled around a lot in confined spaces (say, like tanks) and the construction would do well in hot climates. So maybe designed for the Pacific Force that never was sent?
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Old 10-11-20, 23:23
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Interesting, but there has to be more. There is nothing to prevent the forehead from being struck. That is, after all, where the "zipperheads" got their nickname from.

Since the two parts have come from the same source, we'll have to keep an eye out in spring for whatever goes onto those forward snaps and those leather straps.

Roger Lucy would no doubt be interested in what you have found up to now.
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That "Thousand Yard Stare" is spooky.
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Old 10-11-20, 23:53
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I asked Gord Crossley from the Fort Garry Horse museum if he has any information on the black pad and the only reference he could find on it was on this website;
https://milart.blog/2013/09/07/canad...-tank-helmets/
Roger Lucy wrote the article so I’m sure he would find it interesting! Hopefully we will hear from him.
If you think the mannequin head has a spooky stare you should see the picture of ME wearing it. I sent it to Rob, see if he’ll post it?
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Old 10-11-20, 23:59
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Asked and done.
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