MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > Parts/Sources/Prices

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 13-05-17, 20:17
guy labbe's Avatar
guy labbe guy labbe is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: belgium
Posts: 34
Default

I have some Petlas NT3 tyres 900 x16 on my Morris and fitted without problems on my rims . I had them from John Gray go brought them over to Tanks in Town meeting last September.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_2146.jpg   IMG_2144.jpg   IMG_2147.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 17-05-17, 12:50
Jonathan Moore's Avatar
Jonathan Moore Jonathan Moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: mid wales britain
Posts: 531
Default

When looking for tyres for my HUP I went to John Grey and purchased 5 new 900 x 16 bar grips. Anyone who has seen my vehicle, might remember that it had 3 CMP rims and 1 Morris rim. There are obvious differences with these rims and getting the old tyres off of the Morris rims proved to be a right pain and in the end I burnt them off, where as, with the CMP rims, the tyres were less of a problem. Putting the 900 x 16 back on wasn't a problem as long as the surfaces were clean and I used lots of tyre lubricant. The tyres were well lubricated before assembly then the wheels were assembled, with new flaps and again well lubricated, then the tyres blown up to 60 PSI. The CMP rims, the tyre bead popped into place at this pressure, with the Morris rims it took a little more pressure but they too popped on.

The pictures below are of both type of rim.



Jonathan
Attached Thumbnails
DSC03344.jpg   DSC03345.jpg   DSC03346.jpg   DSC03347.jpg  
__________________
1950 Land Rover series 1
1967 Land Rover series 2A LWB
1986 Land Rover series 3 SWB
1938 DKW SB200
1944 DKW NZ350-1
1967 Ural K750 sidecar outfit
1944 VW Kubelwagen KDF82
1942 Steyr 1500A
1944 Morris C8A
1943 Chevrolet CMP8A HUP?
194? Bedford QL
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-06-17, 14:25
svdwal svdwal is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Renkum Heath (The Netherlands)
Posts: 57
Default

Hi all,

I have bought the Malhotra 9.00 x 16 tyres for my MCC C8 from John Grey 2 years ago and drove close to 2500 miles on them since trough all kinds of terrain and conditions.
No problems whatsoever with these, they do what they are supposed to do and keep inflated.

Rgds.

Sjoerd
__________________
1943 Morris Commercial C8 4x4 GS
1939 Morris 8 E series staffcar (In Restoration)
1936 DKW RT98
1936 DKW SB200 Wehrmacht motorcycle (SOLD)
1959 DKW Hummel Type 113 moped (In Restoration)
1944 Canadian Generator/Chorehorse
Pegasus Oldtimers, specialised in maintenance and repairs of pre1950 (military) oldtimers.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-06-17, 11:49
Mike Kelly's Avatar
Mike Kelly Mike Kelly is offline
Fan of Lord Nuffield
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 5,737
Default tread

Quote:
Originally Posted by svdwal View Post
Hi all,

I have bought the Malhotra 9.00 x 16 tyres for my MCC C8 from John Grey 2 years ago and drove close to 2500 miles on them since trough all kinds of terrain and conditions.
No problems whatsoever with these, they do what they are supposed to do and keep inflated.

Rgds.

Sjoerd
Are these the same tyres ?
Attached Images
 
__________________
1940 cab 11 C8
1940 Morris-Commercial PU
1941 Morris-Commercial CS8
1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.)
1942-45 Jeep salad
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-01-20, 15:11
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default NEW Track grip tyres, British WW2

Over on HMVF Barry Ring posted yesterday:

"Finally some good news on the tyre project, We anticipate production to happen this month, Finally!! all being well tyres will be in the UK in the spring. i will upload some pictures once they have been produced."

Barry has had 9.00-16 tyres made to start with.

See http://www.hmvf.co.uk/topic/38525-ne...s-british-ww2/
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 02-01-20, 15:12
Robin Craig's Avatar
Robin Craig Robin Craig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Near Kingston, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,160
Default New production 9.00 X 16 Trak Grip tyres / tires

It goes without saying that for many people who have for a long time been on a hunt similar to a search for Unicorns, the end may be in sight.

It has recent been reported by Barry Ring that he anticipates a production run of these tires to happen very soon and arrival in the UK after that.

There is a quite a long thread over on HMVF about this located here

http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/38525-new-tr...-ww2/#comments

I would state that I am not related in any way etc etc.

If you need to get a hold of Barry his address block is


Barry Ring

Whitedell Engineering Ltd

http://www.facebook.com/militaryvehiclerepairs

We live in exciting times I think.
__________________
Robin Craig

Home of the Maple Leaf Adapter
2 Canadian Mk1 Ferrets
Kawasaki KLR250 CFR 95-10908 ex PPCLI
Canadair CL70 CFR 58-91588
Armstrong MT500 serial CFR 86-78530
Two Canam 250s
Land Rover S3 Commanders Caravan Carawagon 16 GN 07
Trailer Cargo 3/4 T 2WHD 38 GJ 62
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 02-01-20, 18:02
rob love rob love is offline
carrier mech
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Posts: 7,557
Default

Hopefully someone can import a batch in bulk to North America. I would love to have the correct pattern tires on the 25 pounders and limbers.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 02-01-20, 18:29
Peter Duggan Peter Duggan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Cherry Valley, ON
Posts: 554
Default 9:00 x 16'".

Rob/Robin,

Definitely interested in a set for my Lynx. The idea of a bulk order is appealing.
Peter
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 02-01-20, 18:30
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default

Merged with existing thread here on MLU.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Craig View Post
It has recent been reported by Barry Ring that he anticipates a production run of these tires to happen very soon and arrival in the UK after that.
There is a quite a long thread over on HMVF about this located here
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 02-01-20, 19:08
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rob love View Post
Hopefully someone can import a batch in bulk to North America. I would love to have the correct pattern tires on the 25 pounders and limbers.
I presume the tyres are made in the Far East - India or China (we've seen pictures of Chinese-made Trak Grip pattern tyres here on MLU, of which one would have to order a minimum of one container load), so I suggest to make arrangements with Barry Ring before they are shipped to the UK. Shipping them directly from China to NA may be the best approach.

Hanno
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 06-04-20, 13:57
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default New Trak Grip pattern tyres

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
Over on HMVF Barry Ring posted yesterday:

"Finally some good news on the tyre project, We anticipate production to happen this month, Finally!! all being well tyres will be in the UK in the spring. i will upload some pictures once they have been produced."

Barry has had 9.00-16 tyres made to start with.

See http://www.hmvf.co.uk/topic/38525-ne...s-british-ww2/
Barry Ring notified us his 9.00-16 tyres with Trak Grip pattern are in production. Here are some pics to whet your appetite:

Click image for larger version

Name:	dac5d2e6-ac77-43f5-82e5-aa8f66c5cd33.JPG.8e04b5264ebe7335c3d852dcb557d711.JPG
Views:	13
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	113077 Click image for larger version

Name:	8fc4225b-26c2-4090-ad59-76609fb52065.JPG.86f33efbcb11e134c49b8d51f7a2fc95.JPG
Views:	7
Size:	171.0 KB
ID:	113078 Click image for larger version

Name:	7a039053-ddfb-41fe-bd93-1951188a058b.JPG.5dce3f55d57c603de3c3706fe080cb92.JPG
Views:	8
Size:	108.6 KB
ID:	113079

Source: http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/38525-new-tr...ge/4/#comments
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-04-20, 14:39
Tony Smith's Avatar
Tony Smith Tony Smith is offline
No1, Mk 2** (I'm back!)
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lithgow, NSW, Australia
Posts: 5,042
Default

The "W^D" is a nice touch!
__________________
You can help Keep Mapleleafup Up! See Here how you can help, and why you should!
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 08-04-20, 06:21
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default Contact details Barry Ring

Additional info from Barry Ring:

Quote:
Fresh off the production line👍🏻.

900x16 12 ply.

First batch should be in the uk within the next couple of months (hopefully!)

To save me repeating myself in messages,

They should be in the UK in the next couple months

They are 16” so will be a tight fit on British rims (I will fit one as soon they arrive)

I don’t have the final price yet, once they have arrived I will have the exact price, bulk orders will get discount 👍🏻

Will ship anywhere.

EMAIL me with Quantity, contact name, email and location please

armytyres@gmail.com
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 08-04-20, 07:07
rob love rob love is offline
carrier mech
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Posts: 7,557
Default

They have a bit of a square shoulder, but I would be proud to install those on my vehicles. Sure hope somebody takes the initiative to import some for the North American market.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 01-09-20, 23:13
Owen Evans Owen Evans is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North Vancouver, BC
Posts: 307
Default

Tyres are now in the UK; here's mine for the C15. Maybe this will motivate me to get the old tyres off the rims!

Owen.
Attached Thumbnails
DSC_1010.jpg   DSC_1012.jpg   DSC_1014.jpg  
__________________
1940 11 Cab C15
1939 DKW KS200
1951 Willys M38
1936 Opel Olympia
MVPA # 39159
MVT # 19406
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 01-09-20, 23:16
Owen Evans Owen Evans is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: North Vancouver, BC
Posts: 307
Default

These photos are courtesy of Barry Ring.
Attached Thumbnails
IMG_9148.jpg   IMG_9151.jpg   IMG_9152.jpg   IMG_9153.jpg   IMG_9150.jpg  

__________________
1940 11 Cab C15
1939 DKW KS200
1951 Willys M38
1936 Opel Olympia
MVPA # 39159
MVT # 19406
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 01-09-20, 23:27
Robin Craig's Avatar
Robin Craig Robin Craig is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Near Kingston, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,160
Default

Those look good, what kind of load do you figure they will be proper to use for?
__________________
Robin Craig

Home of the Maple Leaf Adapter
2 Canadian Mk1 Ferrets
Kawasaki KLR250 CFR 95-10908 ex PPCLI
Canadair CL70 CFR 58-91588
Armstrong MT500 serial CFR 86-78530
Two Canam 250s
Land Rover S3 Commanders Caravan Carawagon 16 GN 07
Trailer Cargo 3/4 T 2WHD 38 GJ 62
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 01-09-20, 23:52
rob love rob love is offline
carrier mech
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Shilo MB, the armpit of Canada
Posts: 7,557
Default

The rating on them says 1250 kgs @ 350 kpa. In Canadian, that translates to 2755 pounds at 50 psi.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 22-10-20, 23:51
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default 10.50-16

Anyone looking for 10.50-16 tyres, BKT make them in a road type pattern. Very useful speed and load rating, these are not low speed implement tyres. Haven’t found a distributor for them yet, tough

They 9.00-16 size has a much lower speed rating, strangely.

https://www.bkt-tires.com/ww/en/d-405

Click image for larger version

Name:	BKT D405.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	31.5 KB
ID:	126149
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 25-11-21, 15:28
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default

One of the members of Renault R2087 Forum the made a nice overview of 9.00-16 tyres plus related sizes. It is slightly dated and in French, but very helpful to see what is out there:

Pneumatiques
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 25-11-21, 18:14
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,729
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
One of the members of Renault R2087 Forum the made a nice overview of 9.00-16 tyres plus related sizes. It is slightly dated and in French, but very helpful to see what is out there:

Pneumatiques
That's an interesting link, Hanno!
I was looking at the "Dunlop Trak Grip Blackwall 900x16" , which looks pretty close to the wartime Michelin tread also seen on British vehicles. (Egbert has 2 on his Dodge)

the PDF also includes the actual Michelin tyre, but it seems it wasn't available at the time. I wonder if it's since been reproduced, as France40 vehicles have them fitted to some of their restored vehicles.
https://www.facebook.com/france40vehicules/

Click image for larger version

Name:	47772609642_83c42907a2_c.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	127.0 KB
ID:	126153 Name:  Trak grip Blackwall.JPG
Views: 226
Size:  20.8 KB
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle

Last edited by Alex van de Wetering; 25-11-21 at 18:27.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 25-11-21, 20:03
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering View Post
That's an interesting link, Hanno!
I was looking at the "Dunlop Trak Grip Blackwall 900x16" , which looks pretty close to the wartime Michelin tread also seen on British vehicles. (Egbert has 2 on his Dodge)

the PDF also includes the actual Michelin tyre, but it seems it wasn't available at the time. I wonder if it's since been reproduced, as France40 vehicles have them fitted to some of their restored vehicles. https://www.facebook.com/france40vehicules/
See Michelin Made in England.

As I read it, the document advises to avoid using tyres which are long out of production, including those Michelins.

The second picture you posted was a similar tread apparently sold by Vrakking in The Netherlands, but seems to be no longer available from them. Would be interested to learn if they were made recently.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 26-11-21, 16:02
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Hoofddorp, The Netherlands
Posts: 2,729
Default

The Michelins were also seen on period pictures of early 3 ton 6x4 lorries (Guy, Leyland), on some RAF Fordsons and at least one Bedford MW. And I have also seen them fitted to monument 25pounders. Indeed it was also seen (and produced) post-war, on Panhard EBL's for instance, but my question remains.....was there a recent production run since the creation of the French PDF document? or are all recently restored wartime french vehicles fitted with old production tyres? Does anyone know?

Quote:
The second picture you posted was a similar tread apparently sold by Vrakking in The Netherlands, but seems to be no longer available from them. Would be interested to learn if they were made recently.
Yes, it's a screendump from the PDF you posted and I also looked on the Vrakking site. Looks like a nice tyre to me, and price at the time was also reasonable! Maybe there is a nice Black friday deal to be had ;-)
__________________
Chevrolet C8 cab 11 FFW
BSA Folding Bicycle

Last edited by Alex van de Wetering; 26-11-21 at 16:28.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 12-12-21, 15:23
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default Michelin XY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra View Post
One of the members of Renault R2087 Forum the made a nice overview of 9.00-16 tyres plus related sizes. It is slightly dated and in French, but very helpful to see what is out there:
One of the tyres mentioned in the French overview is the Michelin XY 9.00-16 tyre with road tread. It is no longer made new but good second hand / NOS examples can be found. Advantages of this tyre are good handling on roads, and a slightly larger diameter than bar grips which helps with fuel economy.

And to my surprise, they fit on WD divided rims without having to modify the rim or tyre! No fitting tricks or extra tyre soap needed, they slip right in.

Click image for larger version

Name:	8ECF009D-96A7-40A6-BBF4-F4844ED1DF6F.jpeg
Views:	3
Size:	70.7 KB
ID:	126482 Click image for larger version

Name:	20797CAC-37C7-4DE6-8BBB-21FB4388741D.jpeg
Views:	5
Size:	77.3 KB
ID:	126481


For reference, I have attached a photo from Phil Waterman’s site showing regular road tread tyres in use during the winter in BC, Canada, during WW2:

Click image for larger version

Name:	43D1AFBE-553A-473A-92ED-26B49E0391E6.jpeg
Views:	7
Size:	74.7 KB
ID:	126484

Source: http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...20Columbia.htm

Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 12-12-21 at 23:05. Reason: Added reference picture
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 30-10-24, 22:34
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default Mitas 10.50-16 tyre

Not a 9.00-16, but it may be good to know that the Mitas 10.50-16 tyres do not fit the split rim. The tyre fitting shop gave it a try but they told me it will not go on.

So I am now looking for someone who can machine the rim to reduce the diameter.

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7474.jpeg
Views:	0
Size:	96.4 KB
ID:	138918 Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7475.jpeg
Views:	0
Size:	72.4 KB
ID:	138920

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_7473.jpeg
Views:	0
Size:	87.8 KB
ID:	138919
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 30-10-24, 23:25
Harry Moon Harry Moon is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Burnaby B.C. Canada
Posts: 1,113
Default fitting those tires

I don't see any lubricant on those tires... I've used tire lubricant and have had success even with very tight tires.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 31-10-24, 12:03
Hanno Spoelstra's Avatar
Hanno Spoelstra Hanno Spoelstra is offline
MLU Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 14,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Moon View Post
I don't see any lubricant on those tires... I've used tire lubricant and have had success even with very tight tires.
True, I may need to give it a go myself or try another tyre shop.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:06.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016