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Old 13-07-05, 12:36
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Default F15a

Evening all.

Wanted. 5 CMP 20" rims
5 11.00 X 20 tyres
2 9.00 X 16 tyres

1 Ford PTO
1 Winch + control levers + brake lever + rollers front and back + crossmember

handbrake lever and linkages for tramsmission

Tallebudgera Valley
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Old 13-07-05, 12:56
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I have often wondered if the 15cwt trucks would have ever worn the 20" tires in the old days - is this what you have planned for a restoration?

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Old 13-07-05, 13:15
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G'day Charlie

Looks like you're planning to "gun tractor" a F15A chassis...

Do you have a FGT body???
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Old 14-07-05, 06:26
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Hi Stewart and Keith.

Planning a usable truck.
No FGT body unfortunately.
I reckon 10.00 or 11.00 X 20 tyres will give reasonable road speed with 6.5 diffs and 2speed t'fer box will attend to slow going.

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Old 14-07-05, 12:11
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The 20" rims and 6.5 diffs are a reasonable combination although you'll find yourself shifting gears earlier on hills of course. I've found (on a Chev) that even with 12.00 20 tyres you could still do with another gear on downhill runs.
The 12.00 tyres are quite a lot larger than 11.00.

You'll have trouble shifting to low on hard surfaces unless you remove your front driveshaft (which is a good thing on road trips) or re-rig your transfer case shift with a separate front axle declutch.

Shuffling low to high in the transfer case is similar to changing gears in the crash box but the lever has a longer throw.
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Old 14-07-05, 12:58
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Originally posted by Keith Webb
The 20" rims and 6.5 diffs are a reasonable combination although you'll find yourself shifting gears earlier on hills of course. I've found (on a Chev) that even with 12.00 20 tyres you could still do with another gear on downhill runs.
The 12.00 tyres are quite a lot larger than 11.00.

Keith,

Will a 12.00 tire fit on the 10.50 x 20 inch rim, or does some other vehicle need to donate rims for this combination?

Do any of the beads need to be ground - or similar foolishness??

I bet that the huge 12x20's would be fun to parallell park downtown, without power steering! And think of the ground clearance ...



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Old 14-07-05, 13:04
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Keith,

Will a 12.00 tire fit on the 10.50 x 20 inch rim, or does some other vehicle need to donate rims for this combination?

Do any of the beads need to be ground - or similar foolishness??


Stewart
Hi Stewart,

The 12.00 tyres we get fit straight on without modification to the rims - they used to be plentiful due to the large numbers of ACCO trucks in use by the army here.

On a Ford the right front tyre will polish the end of the pitman arm in tight turns but is OK on a Chev as in this shot of Euan's CGT:

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Old 14-07-05, 22:57
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Good pic Keith.

Have started to consider a GT type body, or radio van type. Are there plans or good line drawings available. Have to be better than the tray and canvas I had initially planned.

Would the 6.5 diffs pull the 12.00 X 20's OK.

Are the V8's and gearbox ratios the same in F15s as in F60's.

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Old 14-07-05, 23:11
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Hi Charlie

As I mentioned, the V8 will move the F15A OK but just won't accellerate quite as well - I use the word "accellerate" in a relative sense.

The gearboxes are identical throughout the range of Ford CMPs from 8 CWT to 60 CWT as are the Chevs, even the C60X with the GMC 270 uses the same 4 speed box as other Chevs.

As for drawings, how about this?



No complete set exists as far as is known, but if you have a look at my page on the subject, as well as some of the reference images you should have a reasonable idea of what to make.
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Old 15-07-05, 15:03
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I am realy enjoying your site, Keith.

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Old 02-08-05, 03:47
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Morning all.

Have obtained all I was after, in the form of a F60L, complete. What is interesting to me is some F60's have the ' light' front axle with the flat base mounted steering box, while others have the ' heavy', 6", front axle with a cresent mounted steering box. The cab on this one is free of rust except for the internal rail above the windscreens.

How do you attach pictures?

Hooroo Charlie.
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Old 02-08-05, 03:54
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Hi Charlie

Have a look at the instructions on this forum.

If you have trouble resizing them, then feel free to send them directly to me and I'll do it for you. I'll email you.
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Old 02-08-05, 04:38
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Old 02-08-05, 04:51
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Looks like you could use some steering components!

Can you decypher the Army Registration Number on the front shell? Starts with a 5?

It looks like a 1942 or 43 model vehicle.
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Old 02-08-05, 07:37
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Hi all

I am curious as to what the dothotfolder means in front of the thread title on the forum thread list. Doesn't appear in the key at the bottom.

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