Re: Veh make ID required

[Mark W. Tonner]

Can someone identify these Quad's, ie: make. I've never seen anything like them before. The picture was taken in Northern England, sometime between Aug-Nov 1940.

Cheers

[Mike Kelly]

Hi MArk :

They are GUY QUADS built by Guy Motors LTD Wolverhampton UK

A few of these things ended up here in OZ , I have never seen one with the body intact , they all suffered from the body chop syndrome as civilians had no use for a artillery tractor body.

The gun tractor version production ended in 1943 , but the chassis continued on with a GS body . There was a 4X2 ANT also .

Mike

[Richard Farrant]

Mark,
The gun tractors are Guy Quad-Ants, introduced in 1938. Would be a rare vehicle nowadays. Seem to remember there was one at an event in England some years ago.

Richard

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Richard Farrant
Mark,
The gun tractors are Guy Quad-Ants, introduced in 1938. Would be a rare vehicle nowadays. Seem to remember there was one at an event in England some years ago.

Richard

Hmmm, easy to see where the basic design specs for our 11- and 12-cab tractors came from!

[Mark W. Tonner]

Thanks guy's. I thought they might be GUY, but I wasn't sure.

Cheers

[Steve Guthrie]

Hi there

Anyone know what those brackets on either side of the engine compartment were used for?

Steve

[Mark W. Tonner]

by Steve Guthrie: those brackets on either side of the engine compartment were used for?

Steve; do you mean these:

[Steve Guthrie]

Hello Mark

Yes, they remind me of the retaining straps for POL can racks, but up there?

Steve

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Can someone identify these Quad's, ie: make. I've never seen anything like them before. The picture was taken in Northern England, sometime between Aug-Nov 1940.

Cheers

Mark, any idea where this is? It would be great to do a "Then And Now" on it... that bridge is no doubt still there...

[Mark W. Tonner]

Geoff;

Northern England, but give me a bit and I'll see if I can get an exact location.

Cheers

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

I can't see the census number very well but I think that they're in the series H 3924296 to 3924739 to Contract V.3372...which gun is that? 25-pounder? I am no expert at all on FA and AT guns! Yes, you can see that Stan Ellis and Sid Swallow at Ford of Canada used the drawings of the Guy Quad Ant tractor in November/December 1939 to base the front end of the Ford 15-cwt. 4 x 4 prototype.

[Richard Farrant]

David,
The artillery piece in tow looks to be an 18 pdr. Not that the shield is narrower than the 25 pdr.

Richard

[Mark W. Tonner]

Geoff;

Can't seem to find an exact location of the bridge in question. The original caption for the picture reads " NO BRIDGE NEEDED HERE - Dominions troops are now receiving instruction in anti-invasion tactics at a military science college in the north of England. Dispensing with bridges, a lorry is here seen towing a gun and limber across a river."

I can't make out the shoulder flash of the Sgt in the lead gun tractor, looked through Vol II of the history of the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery, but couldn't find any clues has to location.

Maybe one of our friends in the UK could help us out on the bridge location?

Cheers

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Steve Guthrie "Yes, they remind me of the retaining straps for POL can racks, but up there?"

Steve, your right, they do look like the brackets for retaining POL cans, and yes, it is rather an odd place for them. I can't think of any other use for them, at the moment.

Cheers

[Keith Webb]

Originally posted by Steve Guthrie
Hi there

Anyone know what those brackets on either side of the engine compartment were used for?

Steve

The Melbourne Tank Museum has an incomplete Guy Quad Ant which uses these brackets to hold the scotches (which are used to anchor the vehicle when winching). They fit very neatly but I'm not sure whether this was the official stowage location for them.

They can be seen in the Year of the Blitz video for those who have it (yet ANOTHER reason to buy the video)

[gjamo]

This location was indeed for the scotches and I seem to recall there being a light cable to keep them from being lost.
The Ant at Melbourne Tank Museum was donated by my fathers Uncle, Alec Jamieson of Corowa N.S.W. He and my grandfather worked on the construction of Tocumwal airfield during the war. After the war they bought lots of brengun carriers, stuart tanks and blitzes to use as tractors and earth moving equipment. They were not too successful but they were the only machinery not used up in Australia after hostilities finished.
The attached pic shows him in makeshift crane. His place was an adventure playground for us kids in our youth.

[gordon]

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
The original caption for the picture reads " NO BRIDGE NEEDED HERE - Dominions troops are now receiving instruction in anti-invasion tactics at a military science college in the north of England.

In the north-east of England there is a fair military garrison on the A1 at Catterick, and has been since that time or before. Training runs from there would be due west up into the Yorkshire dales and that scene and bridge type would be fairly typical.

It was also common for convoys to drive up the A1 and A68 to get to the artillery ranges at Otterburn, just south of the border, and there are scenes like that along the way, particularly at places like Wooler.

Gordon

[Nick Bullock]

They are indeed for wheel scotches, this pic from the manual gives a little more detail
regards
Nick

[Mark W. Tonner]

Thanks Gordon, I never thought of the Catterick Garrsion area.

Cheers

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Thanks Gordon, I never thought of the Catterick Garrsion area.

Cheers

Now all we need is someone to start asking around up in that area, with a printed hi-res pic in-hand...

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball:

Now all we need is someone to start asking around up in that area, with a printed hi-res pic in-hand...

Geoff;

I wonder if we can get any volunteers from our friends in the UK, have anyone in mind....................

[Hanno Spoelstra]

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[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Nick have you got a hi-res version of the Quad Ant front end drawing please?

These are examples of the Quad-Ant G-T and [15-cwt.?] G/S truck, the latter with M Mouse cammo: