MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Armour Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 16-12-11, 00:23
cliff's Avatar
cliff cliff is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gympie, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 3,100
Smile Vickers light tank info required please

I am building a 1/35 scale Vulcan kit of a Vickers light tank and doing a small diarama similar to the 2 AWM photos below.

I see that the inside of the front covers where the crewmans legs are sticking out appears not to be the silver/white colour of the interior. Can anyone suggest/tell me what this colour would have been?

Also the exterior looks to be 2 colour cammo. What colours would these have been? Photo caption says Australian Light Tank Syria 1941. I myself am assuming these would be light stone and british Khaki or similar.

I am building this kit now so the matter of colours is fairly urgent and yes I have 2 figures to pose with the tank in the same positions as they are in the photos
Attached Images
  
__________________
Cheers
Cliff Hutchings
aka MrRoo S.I.R.

"and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night"
MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 16-12-11, 01:26
Bruce Parker Bruce Parker is offline
GM Fox I
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SW Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,579
Default

I'll take a shot. Pre-war Lights would have been bronze green. By 1941 you'd expect they would have been re-painted at least once in khaki or dark green (as I think your subject was). Then, the exterior was given a cam pattern in light stone. The inside of the hatch covers (the parts that were visible when open) would be the exterior hull colour, so in your case khaki or dark green, but obviously without the light stone cam. I expect the interior colour would have been aluminum.

were painted the exterior body colour. In you case I

Quote:
Originally Posted by cliff View Post
I am building a 1/35 scale Vulcan kit of a Vickers light tank and doing a small diarama similar to the 2 AWM photos below.

I see that the inside of the front covers where the crewmans legs are sticking out appears not to be the silver/white colour of the interior. Can anyone suggest/tell me what this colour would have been?

Also the exterior looks to be 2 colour cammo. What colours would these have been? Photo caption says Australian Light Tank Syria 1941. I myself am assuming these would be light stone and british Khaki or similar.

I am building this kit now so the matter of colours is fairly urgent and yes I have 2 figures to pose with the tank in the same positions as they are in the photos
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16-12-11, 01:32
Jordan Baker's Avatar
Jordan Baker Jordan Baker is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 3,846
Default

I agree with Bruce. The bottom hatch would most likely be still in the KG#3 or the darker bronze green. Notice however that the upper hatch in your 2nd photo is semi closed. The verticle part of it appears to have the same paint job as the exterior of the tank.
__________________
Jordan Baker
RHLI Museum,
Otter LRC
C15A-Wire3, 1944
Willys MB, 1942
10cwt Canadian trailer
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16-12-11, 04:44
cliff's Avatar
cliff cliff is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gympie, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 3,100
Smile

Thanks Guys I appreciate the fast replies.
__________________
Cheers
Cliff Hutchings
aka MrRoo S.I.R.

"and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night"
MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 16-12-11, 07:28
Mike Kelly's Avatar
Mike Kelly Mike Kelly is offline
Fan of Lord Nuffield
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Victoria Australia
Posts: 4,833
Default Tanks in the East

Cliff

It's a neat little book written by a sergeant, he was in the 9th Div cavalry regiment . They trained on those tanks at Puckapunyal , and were issued them in the M.E., and then fought the Vichy french in Syria using them . You might pick up a copy in an op shop. I think the authors surname is Kerr ? MIKE PS I recall: John Belfield had the remains of two of them at one time .

here you are : http://www.awm.gov.au/units/unit_136..._world_war.asp

It was published during WW2 while the author was still serving
__________________
1940 cab 11 C8
1940 Morris-Commercial PU
1941 Morris-Commercial CS8
1940 Chev. 15cwt GS Van ( Aust.)
1942-45 Jeep salad
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25-01-12, 20:31
Mark Mackenzie Mark Mackenzie is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 28
Default

Australian AFV in Syria were painted Light Stone with SCC7 Green.

Cheers,
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30-01-12, 03:56
cletrac (RIP)'s Avatar
cletrac (RIP) cletrac (RIP) is offline
David Pope
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Eston, Sask, Canada
Posts: 2,251
Default

Here's the one in Bovington.
Attached Thumbnails
vickers_dutchman_bovington.jpg  
__________________
1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 30-01-12, 11:15
easo's Avatar
easo easo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Darwin NT
Posts: 123
Default

G'day Cliff, there is one here in Puckapunyal, I'll endeavor to get some images if you like.

Easo
__________________
You can tell a lot about a woman from her hands, for example, if there around your neck then she might be a little mad with you!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30-01-12, 17:49
cliff's Avatar
cliff cliff is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gympie, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 3,100
Default

Thanks Easo. The photos I need now are photos of the interior particulaly the drivers compartment.
__________________
Cheers
Cliff Hutchings
aka MrRoo S.I.R.

"and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night"
MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 31-01-12, 12:53
George Moore's Avatar
George Moore George Moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth UK
Posts: 130
Default Vickers MkVI

Cliff, email me at
george.dfs1(at)virginmedia.com

I have a mass of info, and some great ex factory drawings.

Also look at my website

www.mooresmilitarymodels.co.uk

Check out my work in progress.

I am after engine / gearbox details myself. I need "out of vehicle" shots of the engine block and drive.

George.

Last edited by cliff; 31-01-12 at 17:46. Reason: spam proofed email address
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 31-01-12, 17:45
cliff's Avatar
cliff cliff is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gympie, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 3,100
Default

Hi George. The work shown on your website of the Vickers in progress is awesome. I cannot help with the photos you need unfortunately but I need to tidy up and detail the drivers compartment as some of this is seen in the finished model. I have found the thing that lets this kit down in my eyes is the complicated suspension setup and tracks. Thanks for the help.
__________________
Cheers
Cliff Hutchings
aka MrRoo S.I.R.

"and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night"
MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-02-12, 21:19
George Moore's Avatar
George Moore George Moore is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Plymouth UK
Posts: 130
Default Vickers

Cliff, Not sure if I got you right,
I can help with interior photos, I have masses, plus the works drawings that show the panels.
Email me and I can get back to you.

Agree about the suspension, there is a company over here, "Sovereign2000" that makes a replacement set, alternatively, anneal those springs to take out the stiffness.
They are a bit of a b~~~er though I agree.

Email me and I can send the stuff you need.

As for the engine, a general enquiry only, I am waiting for a book on early Vickers tank, which I hope will have the answers !!!!!

George.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-02-12, 09:20
easo's Avatar
easo easo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Darwin NT
Posts: 123
Default

G'day Cliff, here you go.



















Regards Easo
__________________
You can tell a lot about a woman from her hands, for example, if there around your neck then she might be a little mad with you!
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-02-12, 09:29
cliff's Avatar
cliff cliff is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gympie, Queensland, Australia
Posts: 3,100
Smile

Thanks mate those are fantastic and with the photos from George Moore I now have enough to detail the interior parts I need to detail.
__________________
Cheers
Cliff Hutchings
aka MrRoo S.I.R.

"and on the 8th day he made trucks so that man, made on the 7th day, had shelter when woman threw him out for the night"
MrRoo says "TRUCKS ROOLE"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016