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Old 07-10-11, 11:46
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Default British WW2 10 cwt trailer GS

We have just bought one of these trailers and have already gleaned much information from several different places, in particular a 2006 thread on this forum -thanks to all who posted 2006/7.

Our trailer is a later GS made by Orme Evans and Co of Wolverhampton. Census No X5422182 It's like the 4.2 Mortar Trailer but with drop down rear AND front panels. Its pretty rough but substantially complete and will need all new wood and some parts to complete.

The most important thing is can anyone please help us with a tow hitch assembly complete of the later type with the eye,over-run brake assembly and fold out lifting arms all as an integral part which bolts to the drawbar. (This is well illustrated in the 2006 thread entitled "10-cwt trailer")
We also need to locate a hub dust cover and either good pictures of the original support legs or the legs themselves.

Many of these trailers went to Belgium and Holland as well as serving with the British Army until at least the 60s and distance is no problem as far as transport is concerned.

We have already worked out quite a lot of details and differences between the different manufacturers - SS, Reynolds and Orme Evans plus the different variations of body types but would welcome any information,observations,copy publications or pictures -especially of these trailers in use.

We also have a copy of the Chilwell Vehicle Census Numbers publication and if any owners of a 10cwt trailer have their contract number or census number in isolation more information may be found.

Thanks in advance.
David Belcher.
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Old 07-10-11, 22:21
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Hi David,

I tried to do a search for the thread you mention but can not find it. Could you please post a link to it? Thank you.

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Old 07-10-11, 23:29
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Hello Marc,

Not sure how to do that.

The thread was started Sept 11 2006 by Nick Bullock and was entitled " 10-cwt trailer"

Hope that helps as there are some good pictures of the hitch I am looking for.

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Old 07-10-11, 23:33
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Try:
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...hlight=trailer
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Old 07-10-11, 23:54
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Thanks Richard.
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Old 07-10-11, 23:55
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Hello David,

Thanks to Richard I have found the thread. I also have a 10 cwt trailer but an airportable one. It is not yet restored. I know the data plate says build in 1944 by SS Cars Ltd. That would be Swallow Side Car Ltd which later became Jaguar because SS did not sound so nice post war....

Tomorrow I will look up the exact numbers. Hopefully you can find more information in your Chilwell list. Thanks in advance.

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Old 08-10-11, 00:13
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Marc - does it appear to you that the later type hitch is the same as your 10cwt (Lightweight) Trailer.

I would also be curious to know if the same pattern hitch is universally fitted to all 10cwt No2 trailers made by the several different manufacturers.
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Old 13-10-11, 09:26
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We have just bought one of these trailers and have already gleaned much information from several different places, in particular a 2006 thread on this forum -thanks to all who posted 2006/7.

Our trailer is a later GS made by Orme Evans and Co of Wolverhampton. Census No X5422182 It's like the 4.2 Mortar Trailer but with drop down rear AND front panels. Its pretty rough but substantially complete and will need all new wood and some parts to complete.

The most important thing is can anyone please help us with a tow hitch assembly complete of the later type with the eye,over-run brake assembly and fold out lifting arms all as an integral part which bolts to the drawbar. (This is well illustrated in the 2006 thread entitled "10-cwt trailer")
We also need to locate a hub dust cover and either good pictures of the original support legs or the legs themselv

Many of these trailers went to Belgium and Holland as well as serving with the British Army until at least the 60s and distance is no problem as far as transport is concerned.

We have already worked out quite a lot of details and differences between the different manufacturers - SS, Reynolds and Orme Evans plus the different variations of body types but would welcome any information,observations,copy publications or pictures -especially of these trailers in use.

We also have a copy of the Chilwell Vehicle Census Numbers publication and if any owners of a 10cwt trailer have their contract number or census number in isolation more information may be found.

Thanks in advance.
David Belcher.
Since starting to look for this tow hitch assembly ( so far without success) I I have found a fair bit of information -different manufacturers-detail differences etc but still very few pictures of them in use have come to light.

Has anyone any pictures they can share or any more information about the different trailer uses. I am particularly interested in a picture showing the GS with (rear) tailboard . Still looking for the tow hitch !
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Old 18-01-12, 21:06
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Default Spare British trailer parts.

We have now sourced most of the missing parts for this restoration and are about to start dismantling. We will probably have some duplicate parts left over which we will be disposing of.

Among the parts will be items that are common with the chassis of the 10cwt Lightweight family of trailers and some electrical parts.

If anyone is looking for chassis or electrical spares please contact me.

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Old 20-01-12, 00:00
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Hi David,

As you know I am looking for a spare rim or wheel. Also need the socket that goes on the Jeep for the 2 pin plug.

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Daimler Ferret Mk1/1 1959
Ford Universal Carrier No2 MkII* 1944
Ford GPW British Airborne 1944
Lightweight 10 Cwt Trailer SS Cars Ltd 1944
Anti-Tank Gun 6 Pdr 7 Cwt MkII 1942
Daf Trailer YAA602 1954
Daf Trailer AT16-24-1NL 1977
Daf 2100Turbo 1982
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Old 20-01-12, 21:15
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Hello Marc, look at the site of Dirk under British vehicles for the socket.

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Old 20-01-12, 21:17
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Hello Marc, if you looking for the plug, I think I have one I don't need.

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Old 22-01-12, 16:00
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Hello Marc, look at the site of Dirk under British vehicles for the socket.

Groeten

Hendrik
Hello Hendrik,

The socket on Dirks site has a Bakelite cap on the left side. Both sides appear to have a bayonet fitting? Or is the cap there to keep the socket clean and do the wires attach to the rear side? Then I am confused as to why there is a bayonet fitting on that side. Any thoughts?
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Daimler Dingo Mk1B 1941
Daimler Armoured Car Mk1 1943
Daimler Ferret Mk1/1 1959
Ford Universal Carrier No2 MkII* 1944
Ford GPW British Airborne 1944
Lightweight 10 Cwt Trailer SS Cars Ltd 1944
Anti-Tank Gun 6 Pdr 7 Cwt MkII 1942
Daf Trailer YAA602 1954
Daf Trailer AT16-24-1NL 1977
Daf 2100Turbo 1982
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