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Old 21-05-03, 07:49
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Default Carrier track

I think I've finally found the easiest way to disassemble Carrier track to bore over for the oversized pins (after about 168 links).

Has anyone ever had to take apart as much track as this before? It would have been easier if it had of been run around on a carrier for a few miles instead of filling the spaces with rust for years!

Oh well, having fun anyways!

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Old 21-05-03, 09:31
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I think I've finally found the easiest way to disassemble Carrier track to bore over for the oversized pins (after about 168 links).
Well, fill us in!
I've been told it helps to soak rusty track in a barrel of diesel fuel for a couple of months.
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Old 21-05-03, 20:57
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Default Easy way... I think

Well, I got a piece of railway track (3' long) and leaned the track section (about 20 links) up against it with the welded side up.
Then with a 7" coarse sanding disk on a grinder, took the tops off of the welds.

You can see it turning blue when you get to the pin and washer.
Then lay the whole section on its side and knock off the donuts with a chisel.
In the piece of railway track are some joining holes, now turn the track section grinded side up (now with just the quarter of an inch pin sticking out) line up the first pin with the hole in the railway track and tap it flush, then tap with a half lenth of carrier pin, then with a full length pin.
It works great! And my entire garage floor is covered with pins and links!
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Old 21-05-03, 22:24
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Default Easy?!?

Hmm, why not simply buy NOS track?!?


Source: eBay Item # 2175554367
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Old 22-05-03, 06:46
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Default right...

And thats just laying around everywhere....

I don't know.
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Old 22-05-03, 06:53
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Default The going rate...

Is minimum 100.00 for 20 links here in Canada.

Thats $1700.00, I simply can't afford that, and what if all the sections that are bought and pieced together are worn different, they'd never mesh with the sprockets.

I've got lots of time though, I'm only 32 that should put me done around 50
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Old 22-05-03, 13:05
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Default Done at 50

Rob,

Don't make fun of Geoff - he is also done at 50 ..


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Old 28-05-03, 17:28
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I've got lots of time though, I'm only 32 that should put me done around 50
Good luck Rob, here's a pic of how they assembled them over half a century ago!


Source: http://www.archives.ca, picture WRM 1988
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Old 28-05-03, 19:02
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Default Piles & Piles...

Thanks for posting that pic, Thats pretty much what my garage looks like right now! haha
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Old 28-05-03, 23:59
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Rob,
I have a set of tracks sitting in the driveway that every link in each, is a replacement link with washer and cotter pin.History repeats itself,(or at least there is someone else as determined as you out there).See you next week.
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P.S. Have you tried an air chisel yet?
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Old 29-05-03, 06:53
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Default Air chizel, and 7/16 track pins

No, I haven't tried the air chisel but I don't have an air compressor big enough to run it anyways, but an upgrade is in the works!

Also, I'm preparing to do the run of repro. 7/16th original size hardened pins by popular demand. Is there anyone else out there needing some? Message me if you do.

Thanks Cliff, Good info!
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Old 29-05-03, 12:19
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Heres how they assembled them 100 metres down the road from my place at Newport railway workshops Melborne Australia. Photo courtesy of Australian War Museum.
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Old 29-05-03, 18:27
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Default that ones good to!

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Old 29-05-03, 23:53
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Default CMP and carrier parts together



From the National Archives of Canada WRM 2006
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Old 30-05-03, 06:48
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Awsome Keith!
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Old 11-06-03, 12:58
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Default Look in BC

Rob,

There is a nice track set for you in BC.

The poor old U'Carrier has very little else left on this machine, but the track does look nice.

The start bid price on this will attract few bids, so you could pick it up - but not cheap.


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Old 11-06-03, 20:08
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Default UC or T16?????

I may be wrong but that looks like a t16 with the straight 6 and chev rear end, reason being I thought Chevy didn't have much to do with the carriers in Canada. Price is a little high for me though.
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Old 11-06-03, 20:11
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Default Re: CMP and carrier parts together

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From the National Archives of Canada WRM 2006
Sean, (the foundryman) see's Sherman link connectors in this picture posted by Keith, can you find them? Keith can I get a larger version of this Pic somewhere?
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Old 12-06-03, 00:17
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Default Re: UC or T16?????

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I may be wrong but that looks like a t16 with the straight 6 and chev rear end, reason being I thought Chevy didn't have much to do with the carriers in Canada. Price is a little high for me though.
Hi Rob...
Not enough boogers on this beast to be a T16...four as compared to three on the UC.....
Probably an Eaton two speed axel and GM engine...
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Old 12-06-03, 07:07
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Talking oh, I though....

I thought that the 4 bogie was a Windsor carrier, my bad!
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Old 13-06-03, 12:42
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Default Re: Easy way... I think

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It works great! And my entire garage floor is covered with pins and links!


Track links & pins, one of the biggest job about the restoring of a Carrier.

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Old 16-06-03, 16:23
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Default Re: Sherman link connectors

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Sean, (the foundryman) see's Sherman link connectors in this picture posted by Keith, can you find them? Keith can I get a larger version of this Pic somewhere?

I can only see Carrier track links in this picture, no Sherman track link connectors. For images of Sherman tracks, see Sherman track types.


Source: http://www.archives.ca, item # WRM 2006

Caption: "Piles of rough castings of Universal Carrier track links adjacent to steering knuckles at the Ford Motor Company of Canada plant. "
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Old 12-07-03, 00:33
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Default Re: Air chizel, and 7/16 track pins

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No, I haven't tried the air chisel but I don't have an air compressor big enough to run it anyways, but an upgrade is in the works!
Should have told me rob I upgraded my air tank to a 3 head compressor from a twin and still have the twin (3-5hp). It ran my air tools swell but a little short on my sandblaster. only used on sundays by a little old lady driving a Cuda with a hemi in it :-)
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Old 12-07-03, 08:06
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