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Old 11-01-21, 05:04
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Gord , thanks very much . Just a question : What is the sideways width of the whole shelving rack , hence the depth of the shelves ? Thanks .
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Old 11-01-21, 20:02
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I did measure the depth but forgot to add it yesterday. The depth of the unit is 13 1/2 inches measured from the outside edges.

The shelves fit snuggling and measure 25 by 13 1/4 inches

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Old 12-01-21, 00:07
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Thanks Gord , fabulous . Started fabricating the shelving today . With your last measurements i was able to find the original holes for the screws/ bolts that held the front bottom of the frame to the steel floor . You made my day . Thanks chum . Next time i am in Steinbach i will drop off some Maple Syrup at the Steinbach airport ( North ) for you .
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Old 12-01-21, 04:31
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Glad I could help. Let me know if you want any detailed pictures.
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Old 12-01-21, 05:38
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Well Gord , a few good pictures would be nice for the historical record . I would appreciate detail on the bottom enclosed compartment and a view of the removeable door or access panel if you still have it . Again thanks .
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Old 13-01-21, 03:19
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Hi Robert,

Would like to make a correction, the holes to attach the shelves to the rack are a 1/4 diameter. Based on what I believe is an original screw they are Slotted Oval 10-32 machine screws.

I did take some pictures today, a photographer I am not.
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Old 13-01-21, 12:28
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A picture truly is worth a thousand words.

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Old 13-01-21, 22:52
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Default Wire - 5 box Shelving - the definitive study

Absolutely right Chris. Thank you many times Gord . Now if you could just take a picture of the top shelf with the posts that continue above that would be perfect .
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Old 13-01-21, 22:56
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Here are the antenae guards all sandblasted , primed and painted . Can’t install them permanently because then i could not back out of the garage just like the guy who built an airplane in his basement and then realised he had to dismantle it to bring it to the airfield .....
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Old 13-01-21, 23:01
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As you see , i am limited by the height of the garage door . The garage , shed , hangar and associated doors are always too small no matter what you do ..Next summer i will be remedying to that .
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Old 15-01-21, 18:08
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Pictures of the top portion of the storage rack.
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Old 15-01-21, 18:41
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FABULOUS Gord ! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH !
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Old 15-01-21, 18:51
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Original boxes had warning signs near the outlets . All i have seen is blurry pictures . Does someone have a clear definite picture depicting clearly the font and size of the letters ? Here is what i am working on with a local engraving firm . Comments ?
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Old 15-01-21, 22:09
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I do have the 110 volt brass plate, will have to check if I have two, let you know soon.(small item in my big mess)

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Old 16-01-21, 05:06
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Thanks Gord , very helpful. Here is a warning sign mentioning 12 V only near the outlet above the control box . My picture of Me Gibeau’s truck. This truck sits in the War Museum in Ottawa . There is no «*110 V only «* warning sign as the restoration respectfuly completely missed the point about the 110 V wiring being on every truck but actualy only used when it was equiped with an Onan generator .
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Old 16-01-21, 05:13
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Default 110 V warning sign

Here is the warning sign above the outlet with a red circle around it . Drawing by Bruce Parker 1980.
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Old 16-01-21, 05:21
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Lower shelf compartment sliding door is Masonite, smooth side facing out and painted white.

Handle is identical in type and placement to the two handles on the exterior generator compartment sliding doors.

Handle is riveted in place with the same rivets used on the sliding generator doors which are the same as the exterior body skin. Inner side uses flat washers and flush riveting to secure them.

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Old 16-01-21, 17:38
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The 110 volt plate is 2 by2 inch.
I will check to day if I have another one.

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Old 16-01-21, 18:20
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Default Gen Compartment Sliding Door Latch

Here is what a complete Generator Compartment Sliding Door Latch looks like. The rubber wedge tip is hidden behind the lip of the doorframe on the right side.

The latch is in the ‘OPEN” position in this photo. This means you can lift the door up to any height and let it go and the latch will prevent it from sliding down.

To close the door, you flip the counterweighted swing arm clockwise. You can then lower the door, but it will lock closed as soon as you try to open it again, unless… you flip the swing arm counter clockwise.

These were a very common item for wooden sash windows in homes well into the 1970’s, when aluminum sliders took over the market. It would not surprise me in the least if small local Mom and Pop hardware stores still have some stock of these sitting in a corner somewhere. Very likely in cottage country somewhere.

You could buy complete latches, replacement swing arms and even the wedge rubber tips at one time. The tips can wear out or harden and get slippery.

Be wary. Another company showed up late in the game with a very similar product, but the swing arm had a longer and curvier profile and was too long to work properly in this style latch.

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On the bottom to the right of the pull handle there is a small angle piece. Is that for a padlock to hold the sliding panel down?

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Here is what a complete Generator Compartment Sliding Door Latch looks like. The rubber wedge tip is hidden behind the lip of the doorframe on the right side.

The latch is in the ‘OPEN” position in this photo. This means you can lift the door up to any height and let it go and the latch will prevent it from sliding down.

To close the door, you flip the counterweighted swing arm clockwise. You can then lower the door, but it will lock closed as soon as you try to open it again, unless… you flip the swing arm counter clockwise.

These were a very common item for wooden sash windows in homes well into the 1970’s, when aluminum sliders took over the market. It would not surprise me in the least if small local Mom and Pop hardware stores still have some stock of these sitting in a corner somewhere. Very likely in cottage country somewhere.

You could buy complete latches, replacement swing arms and even the wedge rubber tips at one time. The tips can wear out or harden and get slippery.

Be wary. Another company showed up late in the game with a very similar product, but the swing arm had a longer and curvier profile and was too long to work properly in this style latch.

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Old 16-01-21, 19:23
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Affirmative, Bruce. A post war addition for some reason. Significantly less than half the 2K1 boxes at Princess had that feature.

The only original padlock fittings were the tool and POW brackets and the exterior rear door handle assembly that had the two padlock loops cast into it: one on the handle and the other on the estuseon plate. They only lined up when the handle was in the closed position.

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Old 17-01-21, 03:53
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Thank you Gord , that is truly awesome to post the actual Caution plate ! Thanks Bruce and David for the great discussions and details . Here is my interpretation of what the 12 V caution would look like . The = sign is for direct current . The 10 stands for 10 Amps , the fuse on that circuit . I got the idea from the 110 V plate with the ~ sign for alternating current and the 60 for the 60 Amp fuse on the AC circuit. Ideas ?
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My understanding of the 60~ was it stood for 60Hz (wavelength) power.
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60~ might be for 60 Hz current (as opposed to 50 Hz that I believe was/is more common in Europe).

Standardization of frequency in the transmission grid seems to be more recent than I originally thought. Looking at Wiki, it states that parts of southern Ontario were on 25 Hz until at least 1946.
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Wayne is correct but the ~ sign is indicating 'frequency', which nowadays uses the unit Hertz (Hz). The specification that it is AC current is covered by the written 'AC'. You can't use wavelength to describe AC electricity. Wavelength applies to radio waves and waves in the sea. The longer the wavelength, the lower the frequency is.

If the 60 referred to current it would have 'A' (for Amps) after it. DC current does not have a frequency so would not need that line of information.

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I do have an extra 110V plate if you want it, just provide me your mailing address.

I acquired 4 wireless boxes for my restoration project. 3 of them were shells only, but 1 had much of the wiring intact. I am leaving this this untouched until I transfer the wiring to the box I am restoring so I have a template where everything goes. I checked this box for the 12 Volt plate, there was no plate and no "shadow" of one ever being fitted.

The box I chose to restore was 4 owners ago the one Dave Dunlop started restoration on many years earlier.

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Old 17-01-21, 23:18
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Thank you so much Gord . Email sent with my address . Hope my 5 -6 years of posting on this thread will help you with your own restoration .I have a few parts leftover if you need them , just ask . Bob
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Finished the cypher clerk table today with some aluminum trim and it turned out pretty much like original .Speaking of cypher , where could i get a few period correct cypher code booklets for the document tray below the table ?
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Here is the data plate of the Onan 10LS-6 generator for the box . That is the explanation for the 110 V 60 Cycle A.C. Caution plate above the outlet . It reads : AC 110 Volts / KVA 1 / 1000 Watts / 60 Cycles. Mystery solved .
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Hi Robert,

I have not received an email with your mailing address, maybe try to PM me.

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