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Switch Plate colours
HI everyone
I just got my switch plates today for my CMP and I noticed that the background colour to them is brown. In all of the photos ive taken of restored CMPs these switch plates have been a silver/grey background. Was there a different time period that the colours would be appropriate for? My CMP is a late war one with the round roof hatch and gauges.
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Re: Switch Plate colours
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Switch plates
I have a NOS Ford cab 13 late pattern dash. These had steel switch plates with a light grey background. Brass plates were used on earlier models of Fords, with the small ones on cab 12s being the same material used for the gearshift plates, a sort of zinc alloy.
I'll take a pic.
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Switch Plates
Hi Jordan
This is a question I've asked for a while. With my instrument cluster and panel restorations I had to create both types of switch plates. I have seen the brass ones in Cab 13s and in a panel I restored for the Australian Rover Armoured Car that had a Cab 12 cluster and panel. The brass plates had all the detail stamped into the metal and then highlighted in black whilst the silver plate details were painted/silk screened onto a steel plate as Keefy described. Does your smaller plate have provision for Autopulse in the central hole? This was not utilised in the Australian plates where the hole was not punched out but was incorporated in plates that were attached for vehicles destined for colder climates. Bob |
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Autopulse?
Autopulse being the electric petrol pump?
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Here is a photo of the switch plates. These did not come with the truck but they did come off a 13 Cab Chevy CMP from Canada. Bruce Parker may have more info as to what kinda truck they were from as I got them from him.
They are definately brown in colour. That autopulse switch hole is cut out but there is some sort of socket in the hole. There is no text below the hole. Woudl this be some kind of light to let you know ignition is on?
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Colour
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As to the colour, yes, those ones have turned brown - when new they were pale grey.
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New Old Stock switch plates
This is what I was talking about - even the original screws!
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Thanks Keith
Wow what 60 years will do to parts.
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Confirm, but...
The original colour is grey as shown in Keith's picture (with white lettering, much like a 19 set face). As to the socket in the centre of ther smaller plate, it's for the inspection lamp and is original. All Chev's with round instruments here have it. Apparently not Oz ones? Early Ford plates were embossed brass, and the centre hole was not punched out as the inspection lamp socket was mounted on the panel itself. Keith, would it be possible your plates are later Ford ones? Notice also that Chev toggle switches (at least the three centre ones in the larger panel) are a different shape. Ford ones had a pronounced knob at the end.
Jordan, the plates are in their original configuration and are from a 1944 13 cab Chev. The only other variation is really late war Chevs that had an additional switch on the large plate. |
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Panel
Hi Bruce
Yes, this is a late production panel with round instruments which unfortunately were missing when I bought it. The inspection socket was always located in the dash panel itself rather then on the switchplate in Fords.
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To see the ravages of time please look at Geoff - and he is only in his mid-50s ... Stewart |
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Jif
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I think that my dad is more weather beaten that Jif, and he has had to have some parts replaced.
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Parts
Emma, where do you manage to get spares for that unit?
At least it's not obsolete! Maybe been around the clock a few times, but I'm sure you can wind the speedo back with a good dose of Vegemite.
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Max
how the hell did this subject come about
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convoluted threads
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Hotter Climates Colder Climates
You are right of course Hanno. It's winter here at the moment with temps around 10c so my thinking is cold not hot.
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You wonder why these Aussies are just a bit off? I'd almost rather eat raw herrings (fortunately, Hanno talked me out of THAT one, though). Some VERY strange people we here at MLU attract.
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Thanks to everyone
I'll get them cleaned up one of these days.
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cheers Cliff PS> having been born and bred in New Zealand I still say Marmite is better then vegemite. But Queensland weather is definately better though even if it is winter here now. |
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Switch Plate Decals
Hi Jordan
I have replicated these plates on decals. PM if interested. Salesman Bob |
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Vegemite
Jif, You forgot about the dead cow hooves, in Vegemite--- Thats why us Kiwi's prefer MARMITE.
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Chev Dash
What a '44 Chev dash should look like:
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The other side
Note also the buff on the tip of the speedo pointer and the first 0-10-20 MPH markings, luminous and radio active a wee bit.
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