MLU FORUM  

Go Back   MLU FORUM > MILITARY VEHICLES > The Softskin Forum

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-05-13, 05:44
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default Autocar U-9064 navy tank truck - searching for information

Hi,

Anyone have some information and photos about the US Naval Aviation Autocar U-9064, with a tank truck body?

Click image for larger version

Name:	autocar navy tank truck.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	44.2 KB
ID:	56938


source: http://www.trucksplanet.com/catalog/model.php?id=1930

I search all the net but only find this from a WW2 ad, and reference to a 1/50 model.

Many thanks,


G_Mendes
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-05-13, 15:33
maple_leaf_eh maple_leaf_eh is offline
Terry Warner
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Shouting at clouds
Posts: 3,081
Default USN vehicles

Good luck my friend.

Most navies don't care much about their shore equipment; they want to get underway and get some deep water under the keel! There is information on things that float, but little on anything that rolls. (I wonder if anyone anywhere has even bothered to research the type of shore-based equipment.)

If so, it might be in American wartime books and magazines on the war effort and postwar books capturing the disappearing history of the naval bases and stations. If there are photos, they will probably show gaunty sailors and sturdy ships, with a few parades and magnificent-looking headquarters' buildings.
__________________
Terry Warner

- 74-????? M151A2
- 70-08876 M38A1
- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

Beware! The Green Disease walks among us!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-05-13, 17:04
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default What information in particular are you looking for?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goncalo Mendes View Post
Hi,

Anyone have some information and photos about the US Naval Aviation Autocar U-9064, with a tank truck body?

......


G_Mendes

Hi Goncalo

What information in particular are you looking for?

The two axle tanker version of the U2044, and U70 in Bart Vanderveen's WWII Fighting Vehicles Directory and his later Historic Military Vehicles Directory. I believe also that there may have been an article in Wheels and Tracks.

I believe that the 2x4 version and the 4x6 versions of the tankers were slightly militarized or standard commercial tanker trucks.

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-05-13, 23:43
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Hi,

Terry, that's precisely my problem! lots of photos f things that float, little on things that roll!
From my research, the navy had a lot of vehicles in shore bases that weren't standard or mass produced as the ones to the army. They were mainly used in US and Hawaii naval bases, and probably put on service pre-war and early-wartime. Sterling , Autocars, Macks, with civilian type cabs appear many times as background elements in many wartime photos.

Phill, I'm searching for info and pictures in wich I could base the developement of drawings and plans to build a scale model. But as the subject is so rare and elusive, I woul like that this thread could become a reference point about the navy wartime use of a these trucks.

As an example:

Larger image: http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/689f8433212c01a9_large
source: http://images.google.com/hosted/life...3212c01a9.html

looking at the trucks, from right to left, looks to be a Diamond or International K (with civil cab and fire/crash truck body); a Autocar U-70 or U-90 (fuel truck, not sure about 4x2 or 6x4); a I-6 tractor (internationa Harvester IHC, I-6 or ID-6 industrial tractor); a Ford (G8T bomb service truck); last, a heavier truck, maybe a GMC T-46, or Mack L series (started in 1940, 4x2 that has a more "upright" windshield) semi-trailer tractor, about the semi-trailer type, no idea at all, maybe a hellium cannisters cargo trailer?. A better Identification is welcome!!!!i

The problem is that closer pictures are very dificult to appear. I'm only certain about the bomb truck and the tractor!

Cheers,
G_Mendes
Attached Thumbnails
689f8433212c01a9_large.jpg  

Last edited by Goncalo Mendes; 17-04-15 at 18:36.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-05-13, 00:32
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default Well here is a Auto Car that was used by the Navy

Hi Goncalo

Well here is the cover and drawing for and Autocar U8144 that I know was used by the US Navy at White Sands New Mexico or China Lake California as a support and tow vehicle for Navy Ground Fire Control Radar. Was in with my fathers work stuff from his work on that equipment. There are more dimensional drawings if they would be of help.

I know I've seen the more info on the Autocars you are talking about. I'll have to do some thinking about where they might be. There are a couple of US Navy Links that might be of interest to you if I can find them. In particular one to navy flight magazines from the war years. First I've got to remember the name of the magazine.

Here is one link that might be of interest http://archives.aths.org/archives/default.aspx?aid=5 , had you found this one? Has 3475 Autocar photos



Cheers Phil
Attached Thumbnails
Autocar Manual Cover1.jpg   Autocar Manual Cover2.jpg  
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-05-13, 01:20
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Temple, New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 3,927
Default Found the Link to Back Issues of Naval Aviation News

Hi

Found the link to the Naval Aviation News which has copies of the magazine on line back to January 1943 you might find some more photos of interest.

http://www.history.navy.mil/nan/back...backissues.htm

Cheers Phil
__________________
Phil Waterman
`41 C60L Pattern 12
`42 C60S Radio Pattern 13
`45 HUP
http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/
New e-mail Philip@canadianmilitarypattern.com
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-05-13, 08:16
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Hello Phil,

Many thanks for your reply!
The Autocar U-2044 I already know a few pictures, but I think it was more a army air corps truck. I'm sure that I see somewhere a Navy Autocar U-70 tank truck with 4x4 or 4x2 wheels.

Cheers,

G_Mendes
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-08-17, 00:44
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Just find this image:



source: http://www.gruzovikpress.ru/article/...nye-soyuzniki/
Attached Thumbnails
16.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23-10-19, 14:38
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil Waterman View Post
Hi Goncalo

Well here is the cover and drawing for and Autocar U8144 that I know was used by the US Navy at White Sands New Mexico or China Lake California as a support and tow vehicle for Navy Ground Fire Control Radar. Was in with my fathers work stuff from his work on that equipment. There are more dimensional drawings if they would be of help.

I know I've seen the more info on the Autocars you are talking about. I'll have to do some thinking about where they might be. There are a couple of US Navy Links that might be of interest to you if I can find them. In particular one to navy flight magazines from the war years. First I've got to remember the name of the magazine.

Here is one link that might be of interest http://archives.aths.org/archives/default.aspx?aid=5 , had you found this one? Has 3475 Autocar photos



Cheers Phil
Hello Phil, a higher resolution of your drawing image:

source: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/45636212
Attached Thumbnails
Project_Tuba_082.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 28-10-19, 20:05
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Find the reference image about the U-type 4x2 or 4x6 navy autocar

source: https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=224134

I also found also a image of the manual cover, anyone has one? :-D

It looks that it was based in the U-70, not U-90.
Attached Thumbnails
AutoCar_U-4144_001.jpg   001.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 29-10-19, 21:55
Sergey Egorov Sergey Egorov is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Russia
Posts: 40
Default

This is Autocar 6x4UDF model. U-9064 is designation after 1939.
Attached Thumbnails
1939 Autocar 6x4UDF.jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 30-10-19, 18:42
Goncalo Mendes Goncalo Mendes is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portugal
Posts: 74
Default

Hello Sergey,
Many thanks for sharing !

G_Mendes
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:49.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Maple Leaf Up, 2003-2016