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Ford Lynx Scout car for sale....
Anybody with something to add here on the history of this paticular vehicle? Wrong engine, any other issues? Cheers Rob
http://www.armyjeeps.net/Lynx12/Lynx.htm
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Left headlamp looks wrong, and the pick axe head is not WW2 Cdn. But I certainly wouldn't get rid of it for those problems.
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missing wire cutters . . . .
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Lynx
..a thing of beauty - did anyone spot a price?
thx
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28 000 USD is in advert
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Looking at the engine its a Chrysler. Looking even closer it is a big block, 383,400 or 440. Blue valve covers , location of distributor and thermoquad carb give it away
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So, Rob Fast, are you thinking of a major overseas purchase? Don't forget that on top of the purchase price, shipping, taxes, broker fees, etc, you will also have to add another bay onto your hanger to house it.
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Sure looks like a sweetie.... Nice accessory lot too!
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here - at that price.... and I may be talking to my bankers
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Hi Rob Love...No just dreaming...
but someday you never know. The ultimate in any Canadian military collection as far as I am concerned. Cheers Rob Fast
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Yes, they are a true symbol of Canada, especially with the one pictured on the disaster at Dieppe Beach. How can one forget these photos, and the apparent naivety (after a series of errors and last minute changes) of a daylight frontal assault against those cliffs.
Edited to add: I guess it's a Dingo...the wheel rims are wrong for a Lynx. Last edited by rob love; 14-02-12 at 20:42. |
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That is a nice one! you are going to hunt a long time to find another one as complete as that one. I have restored 2 and could never find as much as this fellow has. If he has the rest of the drive line as stated even after the engine rebuild the price is not outrages. This is a fun vehicle and easy to move around and is a real part of canadian history
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Stew, it is also a major part of Australia Armoured history. In 1943 Australia imported, under lend/lease, 170 Ford Scout Car Lynx 1 and Lynx 11's. At the end of the war, the British Commonwealth Occupation Force (BCOF) in Japan was to use Staghounds as their policing vehicles but found that the roads in Japan were too small and unstable and unable to carry the weight of the Staghounds. A decision was made to use Ford Lynx Scout Cars and 109 were sent to Japan from the 170 which came to Australia. That left 61 in Australia at that time and I presume that most of the 109 eventually were returned to OZ, although I haven't been able to locate any info on which vehicles went and were returned. I have copies of the ARN's (Australian Registration Numbers) from the Australian War Memorial and most were disposed of in the period from 1956 to 1958. There are only about 3 actually drivable in Australia, although there are 6 that I know of being restored. Mine included. My Lynx was purchased from a farmer who bought it from a disposal sale in 1956 and promptly broke the rear diff. (Their Achillies Heal). He then cut it up and used the motor in a very early 3 point hydroplane (a tail dragger). Fortunately for me, the unusual gearbox was still there as was the ID plate with the hull and engine number stamped thereon. Further questioning revealed the fact that the 3 pointer was still in existance with the Lynx engine still in it and it had only seen 2 race meeting since 1957. I was able to obtain this historic race boat and the Lynx engine with it's matching engine number, runs very well. My father was a Commando during WW11 and we have a photo of him sitting on the left front guard of a Lynx. He told me that they were called GolfBalls or Doodle Bugs by the troops. It is this photo and the stories Dad told of Ford Lynxs which sparked my interest and eventual recovery of a very restorable Lynx. (In fact 3 Lynxes have been recovered by me and supplied enough parts for 2 good ones and spares for a 3rd.) There is a wonderfully restored one which went to England about 5 years ago, but will be a sad day if another Australian Ford Lynx goes overseas. I wonder if there are any Export Restrictions from Australian Movable Heritage on this Lynx like there is on Steam and Traction Engines. Regards Rick.
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When I get the Gregg tapes redone maybe I can find the pictures of the one that went to shilo here is the picture of the other one It end up in europe
after the shooting of the movie Diepe |
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Just to add to the Lynx love....
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So Bruce, are they for sale??? If so 1st dibs please.
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With all the pictures I shot this is the only one that real shows it. or http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/R...0CMP%20059.jpg for higher resolution. Lesson I learned was you can never take to many photos. Now I wish I had shot many more roles of film. Cheers Phil
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Greg Collection Photo
Here is a shot taken during the move to Shilo....
cheers Mike Timoshyk |
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Ermm, that's a Dingo....
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You are right Hanno that is the dingo. I will have to get out some pictures here are a couple more and the dingo and the lynx together. They are not very good pictures but I will find some good ones
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Mea culpa
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Phil and Stew, those photos are the first ones I have ever seen with both a Dingo and a Lynx side by side. You can see that the Lynx, whilst a good copy of the Dingo hull is a good 12 inches higher overall and about 6/7 inches at the mudguards. This is because the Lynx has a chassis and the Dingo does not. Thanks for them. Regards Rick.
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Rick said: "I wonder if there are any Export Restrictions from Australian Movable Heritage on this Lynx like there is on Steam and Traction Engines".
The answer is yes, to be exported it needs to have a Movable Cultural Heritage Permit. It is a straight-forward process to lodge the application, but it does take time to process. I can think of only one Lynx in a government collection in Australia, at the Army Tank Museum: are there any others? The act requires that there be two examples of similar standard, in different publicly owned collections before an export permit can be considered, though there are some exceptions to this. Mike C |
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Actually the Daimler Dingo does have a chassis, but what makes it lower is that all the drive line and independant suspension is within the chassis, not hanging below it on cart springs as on the Lynx. I am quite intimate with the innards of Dingoes having restored around six over the years. regards, Richard
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Hi Fellas
Well, since Mike C. dropped me in it with my Commanding Officer, I've been looking at use of the Lynx within the RCD. In the first pic, I think that's Lynx in the back but he may be leaning on a Dingo. Taken in Holland 1945. Second pic is a Dingo used in the UK circa 1942 prior to going to Italy. 3rd one is Lynxes in Holland ............and what's that on the Stag??? Pontoons??? regards Darrell |
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Hi Darrell,
If you mean because of the MCH permit stuff, then don't take my word for it: it needs an application and consideration by MCH staff, so it would be best to go though the process rather than simply assume its a 'no go' based on my comment. They are reasonable people. Australia had 171 Lynx supplied under the Canadian Mutual Aid (CMA) scheme, and their only overseas (operational) service was with 1st Aust Armd Car Sqn in Japan between 1946 and 1948 (as part of 34 Aust Infantry Brigade, BCOF). The unit started off with a mix of 18 Staghounds and 8 Lynx, but it soon became obvious that the back roads in the area of operations around Kure couldn't handle the larger Stags, so these were returned to ordnance vehicle park and replaced with Lynx. The Sqn ended up with 25 Lynx on issue and 1 Staghound (the Stag only for training purposes). All were returned to Australia, except possibly one Lynx that was written off. It was possibly the one that tried to mix it with a steam locomotive at a railway crossing.... and lost! All except about 10 Lynx have disposal records that confirm they were disposed of in Australia. At least one was designated as a hard target. The Lynx supplied to Australia were of two rear body configurations: the early vertical rear grill and the later horizontal rear grill. In October 1944, a modification was authorised for all the early type to be converted to the later configuration using one of two Ford-supplied retrofit kits, either the C19SR-16604 or C19SR-110895. In theory, all Lynx were then converted to the latter type rear grill configuration which gave much better cooling performance, but I doubt that the ones held in vehicle parks ('Command Depot Stock') were high on the priority list, and possibly escaped conversion. Like everywhere else, Australia had trouble with the axles, to the point where serious consideration was given to changing the axle assemblies for F15A axles. Trials were carried out, but did not eventuate in a conversion program. They are an interesting little vehicle, and one of the few WW2 AFV types operated by Australia that actually saw operational service. Don't know of the one Rick mentioned as heading to the UK a few years ago, but one nicely restored example went to Canada in the 1990s. Mike C |
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Hi Mike
My bad; I did not mean you but rather the other "Mike C." Rhymes with "Balnan"!!! He also let some info flow toward my CO ref this Lynx for sale and mentioned me by name!! I had to quickly CMA (Cover my A**) with an email back to the RSM!! regards Darrell |
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