CMP Door Mirrors

[Keith Orpin]

Whilst I realise this subject came up ages ago and seemed to grind to a halt, I may have found a way forward. I have today been in touch with a vintage spares specialist here in England, after receiving a call last night with reference to door mirrors. Having spoken to a very helpful chap at this company, who probably thought he was dealing with a complete nutter, who went into every last detail concerning door mirrors, it seems that he can supply an exact copy of our CMP door mirrors!
They are the same width,length,convex glass, even down to the four screws on the back holding everything together, and painted in green drab paint!.(I did'nt push him on what shade of green drab paint !)
I've now taken the plunge and ordered 2, and these will be scutinized by our experts here in Oxfordshire when they arrive.Once passed by the scutineers, I shall report back with the findings, along with details of where you can obtain them from.
Keith
P.S. He also does the convex glass seperately,just in case you only need the glass

[chris vickery]

Keith, PLEASE let us Canucks know about this little treasure trove if all seems to be OK with your sample. Afterall a CMP just isn't right without the proper mirrors!

[Keith Webb]

That's excellent news - can you please get a price for the glass only? I have a few mirror frames only needing new glass.
They look SO much better on a CMP than modern mirrors, don't they?

[Keith Orpin]

Don't worry guys, the whole idea behind my thread was to help all of us, not to keep it for us guys here in England. Therefore when we have passed judgement here all of the details will be listed here. The convex glass is approx £11.00 (UK pounds), which I'll confirm when I get the full details from the supplier. I also know he will ship worldwide.
I totally agree with your comments on the correct mirrors,why spend years on a rebuild only to spoil it with modern mirrors, which are so obvious?
Keep your eye on the thead lads
Keith

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Keith Orpin
Whilst I realise this subject came up ages ago and seemed to grind to a halt, ...

If I recall correctly, Ian McCallum found a manufacturer for these mirrors. It turned out that these mirrors were fitted to many 1930s cars, and a company was making chromed reproductions. Ian either managed to find a set or NOS mirrors or the manufacturer supplied him with two unchromed ones before the supply dried up. Ian, you might want to correct and/or add to this?

Anyway Keith, this is great news! I would be delighted to hear if and where I can order a set for my F15A!
(Don't tell anyone, but it's currently fitted with a set of US M-series truck mirrors...)

Cheer,
Hanno

[Martin IJdo]

I belong to the purer of purists when it comes to originality. That´s why i chose to restore the wiringloom of my A30 instead of buying one with plastic wires. This way you actually see the original factory colour coded wires leading to the different accessoiries in the engine bay.
When it came to the mirrors of the C60 however, i decided to search for a safer option than the original shaving mirrors (i actually took the original items off!). I know that there is loads of space on Canuck roads, but overhere you have to be very, very carefull not to knock someone off his/her bycicle when taking a right turn !



I actually got these from a local farming machines dealer, ideal because it has convex glass, and the same type of ball swivel point, and bolts straight on to the original stems.
Hanno, I don´t know how far your experience with driving trucks goes, but i would advise to get proper mirrors! After all, we all fit clearly visible flashers too, don´t we?

Martin.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Martin IJdo
Hanno, I don´t know how far your experience with driving trucks goes, but i would advise to get proper mirrors!

Martin,

I agree, therefore my F15A is currently fitted with ahem, US M-series truck mirrors . They are rectangular, and bolt straight on to the original stems like yours do.

But I'd like to have a set of proper proper mirrors which I can fit when the Oxford CMP Crew and the likes come around to scrutinise my truck!

Hanno

[Richard Farrant]

Originally posted by Keith Orpin

They are the same width,length,convex glass, even down to the four screws on the back holding everything together, and painted in green drab paint!.(I did'nt push him on what shade of green drab paint !)

Keith,
These mirrors sound like British Army ones as used from prewar up until the 70/80's and last seen on Ferrets, they would be painted Deep Bronze Green gloss. Seem to remember they were called the 1928 Pattern. Several makers and styles, the ones with the 4 screws round the edge are I think Raydot or Desmo. For a good number of years classic parts dealers have been selling these, either painted or chromed, same with Butler sidelamps. I have used these on my QL for 14 years and find them ok, set vertically, you can see from the tyre to the top of the canopy.

Richard

[Pete Ashby]

Fully agree with you Richard, up till now the Oxford crew have been using the British army version, nearly but not quite right, they miss the small pressing round the edge and the four mounting screws that hold the whole thing together.

The ones Keith has sourced look like the bee's knees. As he said they will under go rigorous inspection before being passed fit.

Like you we run with our mirrors vertical and find no problems, not even Steve with 11 feet of C30 tilt blowing in the wind.

take your point Martin about bikes, they tend not to be so much of an issue over here as in your country even with a modern 4x4 with BIG mirrors driving at end of work time around Arnhem can be a scarey experience



Pete

[Keith Webb]

Originally posted by Martin IJdo
When it came to the mirrors of the C60 however, i decided to search for a safer option than the original shaving mirrors (i actually took the original items off!). I know that there is loads of space on Canuck roads, but overhere you have to be very, very carefull not to knock someone off his/her bycicle when taking a right turn !
After all, we all fit clearly visible flashers too, don´t we?

Martin.

Martin I agree with you - flashers are mandatory if the truck is to be road registered and you'd know better than I would about making a right-hand turn from the wrong (right) side of the road, but I find them perfectly acceptable when the truck is driven on the left of the road - after all that's where the truck was designed to be driven.
Many Australian produced Chevs have flat round mirrors which are barely adequate.
Still think that non-original mirrors are fugly.

[Danny Bosma]

Hi Chaps,

It's now that I realize that I passed on something today you guys are probably looking for.... Shows again one should keep reading all postings as they come.

Today, 30 March, the Dutch MV club KTR held it's bi-annual military vehicle market at Maarsseveen (Netherlands)
One off the hobby dealers there had three original boxes with mirror glasses. I believe 10 pieces a box.
He stated that one was Candian manufacture an the other two were British manufacture but the parts numbers on the boxes were identical. The mirror were about 13 cm long and 6 wide.
Not flat but a little bend

The mirrors looked good not splendid as age had some effect on them. They were not weathered or something simular.

But maybe not is all lost as I know that several other Dutch listers where there today so maybe one off the got them instead, Dirk maybe ??

If not, I could ask around who the seller was.

Sorry

Danny Bosma
The Netherlands

[Keith Orpin]

Ladies & Gents,
The two mirrors I recently ordered arrived today,and all I can say is that they are absolutely spot-on to an original ! (There even painted in G3) On closer inspection they could almost be NOS items. I'll try and post an image shortly, but if you can'nt wait till then, the details of the supplier are below:
Paul Beck, Vintage Car Supplies
E.Mail: http://www.vintagesupplies.com

Catalogue Number:395 Lucas type 160 mirror in army drab green £50.00 each.There is a picture of one in chrome finish

Catalogue Number: 395G Replacement Convex mirror glass
£11.00 each

They have a very comprehensive web-site, and it's not easy to find these mirrors, but if you put the above part numbers in it comes up.
Whilst I realise they are not cheap, I for one am very satisfied with there product
Keith
P.S.
They do some other interesting items within there catalogue, worth looking at

[A. Hudson]

Stay with the original size mirrors!
One morning, heading into town three abreast in the cab of the C15 ( yes it was a tight fit ) I decided to overtake, or should I say undertake, on the outside lane. Suddenly there was this resounding bang and we the occupants were showered with glass fragments. My first thought was that a window had shattered but as our sight returned we noticed that the left hand mirror or what was remaining of it was dangling from the arm inside the cab. What had happened, as it was just outside the bodyline of the cab, was that it had hit a lamp post that was right on the edge of the road and had swung around, hitting the windscreen and shattering.
I reduced the extendable arm to within the body line.

Anton.

[Keith Orpin]

Hopefully attached are two images of the mirror. Having now taken them apart, they are without doubt original NOS
Keith

[hrpearce]

Now 87.00 British pounds each in chrome, nickel or black finish.

[universalgrl]

I need a mirror for my MK I carrier project.

Roberta
Comox
BC